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Old 2017-08-24 , 10:56
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Default British TV Series - heavy accents

This thread was originally started by @Rock4us2, and then deleted as it was posted in the wrong section.

I thought I would "rescue" it since it was still in my PC's memory when I was trying to reply, it's a subject that has concerned many in the past so could do with another discussion by now.
Also thought it would be an interesting technical challenge to do since I've got the time today
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There are some British TV series I have seen on BBC Brit and I TV Choice. You can tell they have potential but you have to sit and give them time to develop like all things British. The problem now is the heavy British accent, most of the times it hard to make out 100% the dialogue and there are no subtitles so I end giving up.

Example was In Plain Sight, there are some that are even worse. The other extreme is trying to watch half the African American tv show a on channels like VUZU Amp.
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It has been asked before BBC And ITV don't supply subtitles to Africa.

British accents aren't all that strong(well most aren't) you just have to pay attention.

DStv only supply subtitles for its own channels. Other subtitles comes with programs
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Truth of the matter is I struggle to follow the dialogue and I give up.
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Yip. I understand what you mean

The one thing that does something kill me is the slowness of some stories
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Needless to say nothing can really be done. Unless we can get subtitles which doesn't sound likely
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When the wider subject has been discussed before it's often been put down to some actors doing a poor job of pronouncing their words, but some accents like those of the Irish and Scottish (hardest IMO) take years to make enough sense of.
Speakers also too often don't work as well in the more modern HD panel TVs.
What can really help a lot sometimes is using headphones.

Another issue is technically-poor soundtracks, although less of a concern these days. Biggest problem I still come across is with an occasional movie on one of the eTV channels, at worst they have to be switched to mono sound to make any intelligible sense of the dialogue.

And sometimes MC's "audio-levelling" efforts make the audio too soft for some time after a loud noise, again headphones help.
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Old 2017-08-24 , 12:37
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Also. A heavy york and Essex accent very difficult to understand sometimes
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Old 2017-08-24 , 12:49
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What is considered "cockney", or is that yet another one?

An amusing thing is that long ago people used to complain about all the foreign English series that were dubbed into Afrikaans. SABC used the excuse that their accents were too hard to understand, the English speaking public all said that was nonsense
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What is considered "cockney", or is that yet another one?
I'm not sure "cockney" is an accent although it could be that as well. What I do know about it is that it means speaking in rhyming slang.

some Examples:

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Adam and Eve -Believe -Would you Adam and Eve it?
Alligator- Later- See you later alligator.
Apples and Pears -Stairs- Get up those apples to bed!
Army and Navy- Gravy -Pass the army, will you?
Bacon and Eggs -Legs -She has such long bacons.
Barnet Fair -Hair -I'm going to have my barnet cut.
So can be very confusing!
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I personally don't think people should dubbed one language into another. It does a person's head in. With voice and mouth movement sounding out of sync
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I personally don't think people should dubbed one language into another. It does a person's head in. With voice and mouth movement sounding out of sync
Agreed, although SABC got quite good at it and we got used to it I suppose.


Here's the Google meaning of cockney, seems to be both, and also a name for that group of people as well;

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Agreed, although SABC got quite a good at it and we got used to it I suppose.
This is one of the reasons why I can't watch telemundo
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Thank you for reposting.

Apple Tree Yard is an example of a Brit tv series i can watch without the need of subtitles.
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Old 2017-08-24 , 18:07
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That's because it's filmed I'm London. Londoners don't have a strong accent
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