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te_lanus 2013-05-27 19:40

English Premiership 2013-2014
 
So the Final Premier League spot was cemented for next season, With Crystal Palace beating Watford in the Play-off Final.

So the the Teams for This season is:
[QUOTE][LIST][*]Manchester United[*]Manchester City[*]Chelsea[*]Arsenal[*]Tottenham Hotspur[*]Everton[*]Liverpool[*]West Bromwich Albion[*]Swansea City[*]West Ham United[*]Norwich City[*]Fulham[*]Stoke City[*]Southampton[*]Aston Villa[*]Newcastle United[*]Sunderland[*]Cardiff City[*]Hull City [*]Crystal Palace[/LIST][/QUOTE]

And it's going to be an interesting Season, with four of the Top Six having new coaches.

And we know:
[QUOTE=@premierleague]The 2013/14 fixtures will be released at 0900 BST on Wednesday 19th June.[/QUOTE]

te_lanus 2013-05-27 19:41

Hopefully MC won't be to mad at me starting a new thread for the season already

Flynn 2013-05-28 07:45

The 2013/2014 season is gonna be very interesting - lots of new managers around and players moving around will make this season the most unpredictable season of all times

Toto 2013-05-28 09:23

[QUOTE=Flynn;157236]The 2013/2014 season is gonna be very interesting - lots of new managers around and players moving around will make this season the most unpredictable season of all times[/QUOTE]

Don't forget the all important goal-line technology is kicking in...

81 days to go

te_lanus 2013-06-19 07:19

SO a "Big" day today, with the 2013-2014 fixture list being released :D

te_lanus 2013-06-19 10:13

So it's been released :D

[QUOTE][B]August 2013[/B]
[B]Saturday 17th August 2013[/B]
[LIST][*] Arsenal vs A Villa[*] Chelsea vs Hull City[*]C Palace vs Tottenham[*] Liverpool vs Stoke City[*]Man City vs Newcastle[*]Norwich vs Everton[*]Sunderland vs Fulham[*]Swansea vs Man Utd[*]West Brom vs Southampton[*]West Ham vs Cardiff[/LIST][/QUOTE]This season will also be the first ever Welsh derby in the Premier League when Swansea takes on Cardiff on the 2nd November 2013 :D

Full Feature List here: [URL="http://www1.skysports.com/football/competitions/premier-league/fixtures"]Skysport[/URL]

te_lanus 2013-07-04 09:46

Yay another year another competition

Come join our English Premier League prediction game on SuperBru! It's free and loads of fun. Just click here:

[url]http://www.superbru.com/epl/pool.php?p=11096853[/url]
Pool name: te_lanus's DSTV Forum Pool

Hopefully more forum dwellers would join

Toto 2013-07-04 13:18

The First press conference for David Moyes as Man U manager will take place on Friday 05th of July @ 4pm.

Meanwhile Phil Nevil has been appointed first team coach while ryan Giggs has been appointed player coach by Moyes with immediate effect...

Brendz 2013-07-05 10:10

[QUOTE=Toto;160592]The First press conference for David Moyes as Man U manager will take place on Friday 05th of July @ 4pm.

Meanwhile Phil Nevil has been appointed first team coach while ryan Giggs has been appointed player coach by Moyes with immediate effect...[/QUOTE]

Also rumours that they will announce the signing of thiago alcantara from barca during the press conference. should be interesting.

beetle bailey 2013-07-06 13:54

[QUOTE=te_lanus;160557]Yay another year another competition

Come join our English Premier League prediction game on SuperBru! It's free and loads of fun. Just click here:

[url]http://www.superbru.com/epl/pool.php?p=11096853[/url]
Pool name: te_lanus's DSTV Forum Pool

Hopefully more forum dwellers would join[/QUOTE]

Come on Toto, steve, chris, flynn and others. Come join the fun and see if you are better than sandtonman, merv, te_lanus and me, beetle. Besides where else can you get entertainment that won't cost you a cent? :D

sd_steve 2013-07-07 19:14

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;160718]Come on Toto, steve, chris, flynn and others. Come join the fun and see if you are better than sandtonman, merv, te_lanus and me, beetle. Besides where else can you get entertainment that won't cost you a cent? :D[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I only play the "real" fantasy league

fantasy.premierleague.com

beetle bailey 2013-07-08 14:11

[QUOTE=sd_steve;160754]Sorry, I only play the "real" fantasy league

fantasy.premierleague.com[/QUOTE]

This the one where you pick your eleven players plus a couple of reserves. Then you can transfer players out of your team and replace them with others. All this within a budget of "x" amount? If so I too play that one. Perhaps, if others here are interested, we can set up a league amongst ourselves?

Anyone interested?

Orange 2013-07-10 12:10

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;160840]This the one where you pick your eleven players plus a couple of reserves. Then you can transfer players out of your team and replace them with others. All this within a budget of "x" amount? If so I too play that one. Perhaps, if others here are interested, we can set up a league amongst ourselves?

Anyone interested?[/QUOTE]

I have to admit that I have no interest in playing the Superbru format (far too time consuming), but if someone sets up a pool like this one (where you can pick a team and just leave them if you wish) I might be interested in joining.

sd_steve 2013-07-10 15:03

[QUOTE=Orange;161143]I have to admit that I have no interest in playing the Superbru format (far too time consuming), but if someone sets up a pool like this one (where you can pick a team and just leave them if you wish) I might be interested in joining.[/QUOTE]

No evertonians

beetle bailey 2013-07-11 10:22

[QUOTE=sd_steve;161177]No evertonians[/QUOTE]

Don't be like that sd_steve. I have it on good authority that Orange very seldom finishes near the top of the Superbru Leagues. Besides it will be good to have Everton below Liverpool, where they belong, once again.

Any responses from the united, Manchester City, Arsenal, Stoke, Chelsea and other supporters regarding the setting up of a league?

Orange 2013-07-11 12:16

[QUOTE=sd_steve;161177]No evertonians[/QUOTE]

Shame. It must be tough being a closet Red Devil.

sd_steve 2013-07-11 14:50

[QUOTE=Orange;161248]Shame. It must be tough being a closet Red Devil.[/QUOTE]

haha...you must be new here kid

Toto 2013-07-11 17:26

The Premier League fixtures kick-off times have been finalised. Only 5 weeks to go. It's already getting excting...I can't wait to see John Dyks and Andy Townsend on Match Day Live plus Leroy and Don Hutchison on Fan Zone. We are even more privileged than folks living in the UK when it comes the EPL coverage.

Here's the link, DIARISE.

Steve, BB; Liverpool are kicking off the season @ 13:45 (SA time) on Saturday 17/08 against Stoke while Man U are playing the late game away @ Swansea.

Can't wait

[url]http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches.html?paramClubId=ALL&paramComp_100=true&view=.dateSeason[/url]

Tulani 2013-07-11 17:57

live Sport (eg pending soccer) plus New premium channels equals disastrous viewing disorder given the limited decoder recording memory

beetle bailey 2013-07-11 19:59

[QUOTE=Tulani;161284]live Sport (eg pending soccer) plus New premium channels equals disastrous viewing disorder given the limited decoder recording memory[/QUOTE]

Oh how I pity the poor working classes. So much better being an old codger like me who has ALL DAY to catch up on live sport and recorded programmes. Life is tough isn't it?:D

Orange 2013-07-12 07:51

[QUOTE=sd_steve;161263]haha...you must be new here kid[/QUOTE]

You mean you don't have pictures of Wayne Rooney stuck up all over your bedroom walls??? ;)

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;161297]Oh how I pity the poor working classes. So much better being an old codger like me who has ALL DAY to catch up on live sport and recorded programmes. Life is tough isn't it?:D[/QUOTE]

I shall tell Mother you are bored, I'm sure she can think of a few things for you to do (vacuum the lounge, mow the lawn...) :D

te_lanus 2013-08-10 20:14

So Tomorrow is the "Official" opening of the Season, with the Community Shield, and the league starting next saturday :D

beetle bailey 2013-08-11 11:47

[QUOTE=te_lanus;163953]So Tomorrow is the "Official" opening of the Season, with the Community Shield, and the league starting next saturday :D[/QUOTE]

Go Wigan. :rolleyes: (Although I don't really expect them to win but one can but hope for them to upset yet another manchester side).

te_lanus 2013-08-11 16:55

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;163965]Go Wigan. :rolleyes: [/QUOTE]so it ended RvP 2 - 0 Wigan :D

beetle bailey 2013-08-11 17:32

Congratulations to you united supporters. A cup victory is a cup victory irrespective of how strong, or weak, the opposition may be.
Congratulations again.

Flynn 2013-08-12 08:00

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;163980]Congratulations to you united supporters. A cup victory is a cup victory irrespective of how strong, or weak, the opposition may be.
Congratulations again.[/QUOTE]

It must be hard for you Liverpool supporters to keep on congratulating us, MU supporter

MU did enough to win the Charity Shield, nothing to brag about - the opponents were not the best in English soccer but all in all, MU bagged their first silverware of the 2013/2014. David Moyes must have been a happy chappy, lots of pressure from the media and the supporters but all is good for now I guess:D

Toto 2013-08-12 16:00

[QUOTE=Flynn;164047]It must be hard for you Liverpool supporters to keep on congratulating us, MU supporter

MU did enough to win the Charity Shield, nothing to brag about - the opponents were not the best in English soccer but all in all, MU bagged their first silverware of the 2013/2014. David Moyes must have been a happy chappy, lots of pressure from the media and the supporters but all is good for now I guess:D[/QUOTE]

RVP has to have a big season for us to succeed.


Breaking:

Valencia has vacated the No 07 shirt and will wear No 25. What does this mean? Is Christiano coming back?????

Imagine a trio attack of Ronaldo, RVP and Rooney. EPL in the bag and CL contender for sure...

[url]http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1520328/antonio-valencia-vacates-manchester-united-no-7-shirt?cc=3888[/url]

Flynn 2013-08-13 15:01

[QUOTE=Toto;164132]Valencia has vacated the No 07 shirt and will wear No 25. What does this mean? Is Christiano coming back?????

Imagine a trio attack of Ronaldo, RVP and Rooney. EPL in the bag and CL contender for sure...[/QUOTE]

Yeah, seen that on Sunday - hopefully CR7 will be back if MU can pay Real Madrid or is the shirt number reserved for Bale

beetle bailey 2013-08-16 19:07

What gives with manchester united this season? Already their manager is complaining stating that the opening games are too difficult?

Three of united's first five games are against Chelsea, Liverpool and Man City. Last year three of Liverpool's first five games were against Man City, Arsenal and manchester united. Cannot remember hearing any complaints about the draw being rigged coming from the Liverpool camp.

Pressure already telling on moyes?

Anyway, great that the season's only a couple of hours away from kicking off.

And Suarez has apologised to his team mates and is now back to training with them. :D

Toto 2013-08-19 08:29

Great start to the Moyes era. It looks like the players are really playing for him and the prestige of donning the ManU shirt. I expect RVP to be the main man again and Welbeck to have a great season. As for Rooney, heaven knows...

Elsewhere, great start to LFC, Chelsea and Spurs but what about Villa upsetting Arsenal. Arsenal have become a joke and Wenger is a man in denial. Looking forward to seeing the new Man City tonight.

Flynn 2013-08-19 09:06

Great opening weekend of the 2013/2014 season

New season, new manager but same old RVP - he just cant keep himself out of the score sheet, 2 goals to his name. Welbeck did very well, his second goal reminds me of the Cantona goal, anyone can recall that Cantona goal - brilliant

Arsenal - damn, they picked off where they left off last season, losing

All the other favorites - they had a good day at the office

The teams that got promoted did not do that bad - this is the season where a lot of upsets is going to take place

te_lanus 2013-08-19 11:36

[QUOTE=Toto;165111]but what about Villa upsetting Arsenal. Arsenal have become a joke and Wenger is a man in denial.[/QUOTE]
I think this might be the last season Wenger gets to prove something. If Arsenal don't end up in the top three, then he's head will be on the chopping blocks.

Flynn 2013-08-20 08:45

MC thumped Newcastle 4-0 last night, MC goes top of the EPL:mad:. Nice start to the season for the new MC manager, Alan Pardew must have pulled his hair off after the game:D

beetle bailey 2013-08-21 12:19

Early days yet and lots can still happen but from what I've seen so far I would suggest that the race for top spot is going to be between Manchester City and Chelsea. united Will be fighting it out for third spot with Spurs who have gone heavily into the transfer market and made some, what on paper anyway, appear to be decent signings. (How come just about every player Liverpool are linked with, Spurs go for? Don't they have their own scouts? Dempsey, Siggurdson, Willian to mention just three).

Liverpool, Arsenal and a whole host of other teams will be fighting to get into one of the remaining European spots. Not the Champions League. This is as things stand at the moment and unless dramatic changes take place in the remaining days of the transfer window.

moyes complained about his openning five fixtures but I've just seen Aston Villa's first three games and who they've got to come up against. Arsenal, Chelsea and then Liverpool. So what's moye's on about?

Orange 2013-08-22 09:26

I think it's too early to be making any judgements on who will finish where. I do think that we can already pretty much call it a three horse race though, with Man Utd, Man City and Chelsea fighting it out for the top three slots. Which way it will go depends to a large extent on the results between those 3 teams when they play each other, and the quality of the depth in their squads.

The rest are fighting for 4th and 5th I'm afraid. I really can't see any of them challenging the top 3.

I don't think there's much to choose between the next 5 or so clubs (Spurs, Liverpool, Everton, Villa and Arsenal). There could be one or two of the smaller clubs punching above their weights on occasion, but these 5 will be there or thereabouts for the whole season.

As for Moyes' comments on the fixture list, what a load of rot. You have to play everyone twice in a season, home and away, so who cares when that is? Would he rather play Chelsea, City and Liverpool in a row over Christmas? No. I didn't think so.

Chris Hanson 2013-08-22 11:01

[QUOTE=Orange;165649]As for Moyes' comments on the fixture list, what a load of rot. You have to play everyone twice in a season, home and away, so who cares when that is? Would he rather play Chelsea, City and Liverpool in a row over Christmas? No. I didn't think so.[/QUOTE]

Totally agree Orange, in fact maybe he should be happy with getting City, Chelsea and Liverpool out of the way before they really get into their stride.

Nice win for your lads BB, although how Walters missed that penalty is beyond me. 90 minutes into the season and Stoke were rock bottom :( Fortunately, a few bad results for other teams helped us climb up the table a bit. Sandtonman is surprisingly quiet :D

Toto 2013-08-22 11:34

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;165473]Early days yet and lots can still happen but from what I've seen so far I would suggest that the race for top spot is going to be between Manchester City and Chelsea. united Will be fighting it out for third spot with Spurs who have gone heavily into the transfer market and made some, what on paper anyway, appear to be decent signings. (How come just about every player Liverpool are linked with, Spurs go for? Don't they have their own scouts? Dempsey, Siggurdson, Willian to mention just three).

[/QUOTE]

Hi BB, were you writing with your heart or with your head? :D

Seriously, Chelsea and City played @ home while Utd played in a foreign land (Wales :D) with a grumpy and unsettled Rooney, nervous Moyes after an average pre-season yet they scored 4 classy goals. Chelsea have not impressed me that much in the two games they played while City look solid and deep. In my opinion,
City are favourite followed by United then Chelsea. The only reason I think City are favourite is because of the better depth they have todate but WRITE UTD OFF @ YOUR OWN PERIL!

One thing I know for a FACT, Arsenal will not win the league. They have been infected with the L'pool VIRUS .:D

BTW, has anyone heard from Onoricco lately?

beetle bailey 2013-08-22 12:05

Was admittedly basing my predictions on just the first round of games seen but also taking into account the players who never made it into the starting eleven of the sides. City and Chelsea have loads of talent that they could have called on. Not so sure that united had the same.

united possibly having to rely a lot on rvp to stay fit and win games for them. Like he did over the weekend. Two very well taken goals by him. Lose him and there's, as far as I know, nobody anywhere near his class on the bench. I could be mistaken and if I am I'm sure you united supporters will let me know. :o

Orinocco may make a comeback this season as I think her side, Spurs, even without Bale could be one of the most impressive sides this season.

Yes, Chris, for awhile there our two teams were top and bottom of the Premier League. Sadly, for me, and great happiness for yourself things had changed come the end of the weekend's fixtures.

Sandtonman is keeping very quiet but in fairness to him he hasn't really been posting much on this thread. Maybe he's seen the writing on the wall for his side for awhile now and got out while the going was good?:)

sd_steve 2013-08-22 15:46

Obviously at this stage of the league it looks pretty much like a one horse race.

Liverpool will take the title undoubtedly this season.

Funny how the ref and other match officials made approximately 4 to 5 absolutely horrific blunders in yesterdays game. Paul Lambert can feel extremely hard done by, by the 'paid-off' match officials.

Flynn 2013-08-22 16:56

There is nothing in here with the weekends results, all the teams have played 1 game each besides Chelsea and Aston Villa who played last night. There is so much to play for in this season. Which manager will come out triumphs, he who knows how to rotate his team and seeing that there are so many new managers in the EPL - we are in for a humdinger

BTW Steve & BB - MU will still rule this season because SAF will still play a huge role in MU's season

beetle bailey 2013-08-22 17:38

[QUOTE=Flynn;165779]BTW Steve & BB - MU will still rule this season because SAF will still play a huge role in MU's season[/QUOTE]

Time will tell whether you get proven to be right or not. At the moment, like Liverpool, united seem to be unable to attract the right kind of "stars" to their team having to date only brought in one youngster(?) during this transfer window. However, there's still ten or so days left for united and Liverpool to correct this situation. Something which has to be done if either side is serious about either challenging for the league title (united) or for a Champions League spot (Liverpool..... and united?).

Chris Hanson 2013-08-22 17:53

I think the reason MU and the like are not attracting big name signings is because players are reluctant to sign for a team that cannot guarantee them match time. With the World Cup coming up next year in Brazil, no big stars want to spend half their time sitting on the bench, where their lack of game time might see them being overlooked by national selectors.

In the case of MU, Moyes is still learning about the current squad and combinations he has at his disposal, to start bringing in additional factors such as new players would probably complicate the job even more so.

Flynn 2013-08-23 08:14

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;165792]Time will tell whether you get proven to be right or not. At the moment, like Liverpool, united seem to be unable to attract the right kind of "stars" to their team having to date only brought in one youngster(?) during this transfer window. However, there's still ten or so days left for united and Liverpool to correct this situation. Something which has to be done if either side is serious about either challenging for the league title (united) or for a Champions League spot (Liverpool..... and united?).[/QUOTE]

MU got 50 players on their payroll - surely a team of this size and caliber can surely take MU to new heights. Yes, a some good name signing will do however if the big name players cannot play as a team, I do not think that they will fit into MU plans

Liverpool on the other still has that mindset that they are re-building the team thus they would rather play their players for every game and burn them out than rotating their team to ensure that they have fresh legs in every single game. Opposition clubs just know how Liverpool play:D

sd_steve 2013-08-23 11:18

[QUOTE=Flynn;165895]
Liverpool on the other still has that mindset that they are re-building the team thus they would rather play their players for every game and burn them out than rotating their team to ensure that they have fresh legs in every single game. Opposition clubs just know how Liverpool play:D[/QUOTE]

Not too sure how you came up with that, rebuilding was last season. You can see by the manager that he is comfortable and and always working hard. He has gotten rid of useless players (Carrol, Downing, Jay Spearing and Jonjo) and has rebuilt the team the way he wants it.

The players, they look like a well drilled team, very fluid and have a great understanding between each other.

Just listening to Rodgers and seeing his confidence it helps but bottom line is winning games needs to be a consistent thing, we shall see against Villa.

Flynn 2013-08-23 11:50

[QUOTE=sd_steve;165939]Not too sure how you came up with that, rebuilding was last season. You can see by the manager that he is comfortable and and always working hard. He has gotten rid of useless players (Carrol, Downing, Jay Spearing and Jonjo) and has rebuilt the team the way he wants it.

The players, they look like a well drilled team, very fluid and have a great understanding between each other.

Just listening to Rodgers and seeing his confidence it helps but bottom line is winning games needs to be a consistent thing, we shall see against Villa.[/QUOTE]

Only time will tell with your confidence in Rodgers & the Liverpool players

Toto 2013-08-23 12:44

[QUOTE=sd_steve;165939]
The players, they look like a well drilled team, very fluid and have a great understanding between each other.

Just listening to Rodgers and seeing his confidence it helps but bottom line is winning games needs to be a consistent thing, we shall see against Villa.[/QUOTE]

I have two words for you Steve: Christian Benteke.

Let's catch up on Monday :D

sd_steve 2013-08-23 14:06

We can catch up on Tuesday Morning...

Toto 2013-08-23 14:31

[QUOTE=sd_steve;165994]We can catch up on Tuesday Morning...[/QUOTE]

:D Good one! I'm UPBEAT about Monday Night Football in our own backyard. ;)

Chris Hanson 2013-08-23 17:21

I think Liverpool look like a tight unit already this season. Maybe not CL material, but should finish much better than last year. It took a season for Rodgers to establish himself and style of play, but it showed last Saturday that they seem a lot more confident, even without Suarez.
Agree with SD-Steve, Villa will be a much more of a litmus test than the Potters were.

Flynn 2013-08-26 07:40

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;166015]I think Liverpool look like a tight unit already this season. Maybe not CL material, but should finish much better than last year.QUOTE]

I have to agree with you Chris - Liverpool is playing good football at the moment however I feel that they do miss Suarez for that finishing touch. No matter what people say about Suarez's attitude but that boy really makes a difference in the Liverpool score-line

How about the new comers - Cardiff City? Damn they did a number on MC yesterday, probably the first upset of the season:D

Tonite is a good game - MU vs Chelsea. I guess we still have to see MUs playing strategy for this season under David Moyes. Lets see how the game goes tonite - my prediction is MU to win 3-1

Flynn 2013-08-26 07:48

The Chosen One v The Special One

[URL]http://www.iol.co.za/sport/soccer/premier-league/the-chosen-one-v-the-special-one-1.1567806#.Uhrr8I38LIU[/URL]

Chris Hanson 2013-08-26 15:20

[QUOTE=Flynn;166251][QUOTE=Chris Hanson;166015]I think Liverpool look like a tight unit already this season. Maybe not CL material, but should finish much better than last year.QUOTE]

I have to agree with you Chris - Liverpool is playing good football at the moment however I feel that they do miss Suarez for that finishing touch. No matter what people say about Suarez's attitude but that boy really makes a difference in the Liverpool score-line

How about the new comers - Cardiff City? Damn they did a number on MC yesterday, probably the first upset of the season:D

Tonite is a good game - MU vs Chelsea. I guess we still have to see MUs playing strategy for this season under David Moyes. Lets see how the game goes tonite - my prediction is MU to win 3-1[/QUOTE]

After watching Saturday's game, Liverpool do need someone with that killer instinct in front of goal. But I do like Rodgers' style of play. Swansea are really missing him this season.

Tonights match I'm hoping will be a cracker :D Both teams and both managers have a lot to prove.

beetle bailey 2013-08-26 15:36

Looking forward to tonight's game like the rest of you. My money is on Chelsea to pick up all three points but won't be too surprised if it goes the other way. Cannot see it being 3 - 1 to united though. Think that scoreline is a bit optimistic. But I could be proven wrong. Once again.

Team of the weekend must have been Cardiff City. Doubt that anyone would have picked them to beat Manchester City. Great result for them and posssibly for the other title contenders as well.

Spurs somehow didn't look all that great as far as I was concerned. With all their new signings I was expecting them to be a lot better than they were. Still they got the victory so that's all that really matters for them. Hear that in addition to Real Madrid there's another club in the mix to sign Bale. This on Skysports News earlier today. Liverpool after him? :D:rolleyes:

Flynn 2013-08-27 07:37

What a disappointing draw last night? MU outplayed Chelsea but they never capitalize on their opportunity. Rooney and Moyes was the big build up to last night's game. MU had 2 offers from Chelsea for Rooney that was turned down and Moyes never ever beat Jose in any match up and also never won a game at Old Trafford as yet. Rooney proved all critics wrong and played a fantastic game. I rather take the 1 point than nothing at all:D

Another big game for MU this weekend - MU vs Liverpool. This is going to be a huge build up by the fans, the biggest rivals in modern day football

Toto 2013-08-27 11:38

Utterly disappointing game. Jose showed United too much respect by playing without a striker and United didn't create enough chances for a home game. I feel Wayne Rooney is clearly not getting along with RVP. There is a clear battle for the main man between the two and I'm not sure Moyes can handle both in the dressing room.

I miss SAF big time!:mad:

beetle bailey 2013-08-27 15:01

Will admit that united surprised me with the way they controlled most of the game. Not too impressed with some of the new Chelsea signings, Sherle(?) and De Bruyne both of whom I expected a bit more from.

I hope that the united supporters here will start to take notice of their much vaunted player rvp who too often resorts to elbowing opponents. Last night's game wasn't the first time he's done so in a game. No denying his talent but he needs to get this aspect of his game under control.

Overall I thought that of the two sides united were the better one but a draw between these two sides does keep Liverpool above united on the log. :D (Been ages since I could say that, even if it may prove to be temporary.)

Chris Hanson 2013-08-27 15:59

What is becomming apparent even this early in the season, is that the new managers at various clubs are really having an impact. MC would NEVER have lost to Cardiff under Mancini. Liverpool are finally clicking under Rodgers, the Special One has got Chelsea at the top of the log and Stoke managed to score 2 goals that weren't from set-pieces :D

beetle bailey 2013-08-27 18:51

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;166549]What is becomming apparent even this early in the season, is that the new managers at various clubs are really having an impact. MC would NEVER have lost to Cardiff under Mancini. Liverpool are finally clicking under Rodgers, the Special One has got Chelsea at the top of the log and Stoke managed to score 2 goals that weren't from set-pieces :D[/QUOTE]

Looks like Liverpool are becoming the feeder club for a lot of teams in the different leagues. Shelvey to ????, Spearing to ???? and now Assaidi to help out Stoke. These are just three of many players who have gone to other clubs recently. Look around the league and you'll possibly see an ex Liverpool player in one of the sides. They jumping ship perhaps? :D

Merv 2013-08-27 20:58

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beetle bailey 2013-08-28 14:44

Arsenal 2 Fenerbache 0. Guess Sandtonman would have come away from the game still smiling like he is in the photo. Well done.

te_lanus 2013-08-28 15:00

Wonder what's gonna happen at Spurs with the Bale saga?

sd_steve 2013-08-28 15:12

[QUOTE=te_lanus;166674]Wonder what's gonna happen at Spurs with the Bale saga?[/QUOTE]

I wonder what's going to happen to Man U at the Royal Anfield

te_lanus 2013-08-28 15:13

[QUOTE=sd_steve;166676]I wonder what's going to happen to Man U at the Royal Anfield[/QUOTE]
Man U 10 - 0 Liverpool :D

Chris Hanson 2013-08-28 16:40

[QUOTE=te_lanus;166674]Wonder what's gonna happen at Spurs with the Bale saga?[/QUOTE]

The sooner this saga ends, the better. Okay, Bale has been harping on about playing Champions League football and not getting that opportunity at Spurs. But just about every weekend Spurs are playing against some of the biggest names in world football. (MU, MC, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Stoke :D ). What's he got to look forward to in Spain ? A twice a season clash with Barcalona, and the rest of the time kicking about in Spanish backwaters like Elche and Almeria. I wouldn't exactly call this the kind of "challenge" every top footballer wants.
It seems to me that these footballers are driven purely by the money, and not the passion for the game anymore. Rooney might be wanting to move on, but not because of the money, but because he feels he's not getting the match time he wants. That I can respect.

beetle bailey 2013-08-28 16:52

Although I won't deny that most of today's players have little or no loyalty to the clubs they represent and are only in it for the money, Bale included, I do feel that by moving to Real Madrid he'll get to play against more of the top teams in Europe. Certainly Spain may not have as many good sides in the league as the English Premiership but I think one needs to look beyond these leagues and look at the Champions League instead. Here is where the challenge for Bale will be when competing against sides like Bayern Munich, Juventus and the like.

From recent reports it seems as if the transfer will be going through within the next day or two.

Flynn 2013-08-29 10:52

I don't think that anyone can blame Bale for going to RM if that has to happens, top players these days want to play CL football. Having said that, RM dictated the price tag on Bale which personally as I said before, I do not think that he is worth so much of money

sd_steve 2013-08-31 20:47

First Time in a long time Liverpool have been odds on:

Liverpool v Man Utd
Event Notes: Event Goes Live In-Play on 01-9-13 @ 14:30pm.
Winner (90 min)
Liverpool
1.5
Draw
2.35
Man Utd
1.9

Maybe the United fans want to try their luck with a little bit of value...

Orange 2013-09-02 10:54

[QUOTE=sd_steve;167078]First Time in a long time Liverpool have been odds on:

Liverpool v Man Utd
Event Notes: Event Goes Live In-Play on 01-9-13 @ 14:30pm.
Winner (90 min)
Liverpool
1.5
Draw
2.35
Man Utd
1.9

Maybe the United fans want to try their luck with a little bit of value...[/QUOTE]

It's only value if you actually manage to win...;)

beetle bailey 2013-09-02 12:12

Hey sd_steve don't you find the forum very VERY quiet today? Wonder why that is?

beetle bailey 2013-09-02 12:13

[QUOTE=te_lanus;166677]Man U 10 - 0 Liverpool :D[/QUOTE]

Hello? Got that wrong didn't you?

sd_steve 2013-09-02 12:29

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;167156]Hey sd_steve don't you find the forum very VERY quiet today? Wonder why that is?[/QUOTE]

Very strange...it's like a ghost town over here...

Chris Hanson 2013-09-02 12:36

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;167156]Hey sd_steve don't you find the forum very VERY quiet today? Wonder why that is?[/QUOTE]

Well, I for one, am in a state of shock. Stoke 5th, ahead of Man U :D I must admit BB and SD_Steve, Rodgers has really turned Liiverpool around. For the last couple of season, people have been taking about Liverpool possibly going down after the first few games, not this season. The panel after the game pointed out that when van Perse's not scoring, and Rooney's not playing, Man U don't seem to know where the goals are going to come from. Having said that, Liverpool have relied solely on Sturridge for all 3 goals so far. But hey, 9 points after 3 games is what counts.

beetle bailey 2013-09-02 14:05

Still a long l-o-n-g way to go to the end of the season so anything can still happen but for now I'm very happy with the way the season has gone. Obviously so. Very nice to see other sides, Arsenal, Spurs and united coming under pressure from the press and not us. Interesting to see what the various squads of the different sides are going to look like after the transfer window ends. See that Ozil is reportedly "on the radar" of both Arsenal and united. If he goes to Arsenal then that would indicate to me that united are no longer able to draw the quality players to their club. And so would the slide to mediocrity begin. :D

te_lanus 2013-09-02 15:14

Man U didn't really impress yesterday :P. So Congrats on Liverpool on finally winning against Man U :D

Man U looked like a team in a bit of disorganized especially in the first half, second half they looked a little bit more organized.

Flynn 2013-09-02 16:04

Congrats BB, Steve & all the Liverpool supporters on their win against MU. The game was nothing to brag about but Sturridge goal decided the end result. Yeah I can go on and on stating the obvious that MU played a better game, RVP & Nani missed good chances but all in all no matter what the excuses are, Liverpool took the 3 points:mad:

The next time these 2 sides meet is at the Capital One Cup - Suarez will make his 2013/2014 debut after his ban - that will be an interesting game

I hope MU makes a good signing of a midfielder by tonite

Chris Hanson 2013-09-02 16:09

[QUOTE=te_lanus;167206]Man U didn't really impress yesterday :P. So Congrats on Liverpool on finally winning against Man U :D

Man U looked like a team in a bit of disorganized especially in the first half, second half they looked a little bit more organized.[/QUOTE]

Maybe SAF popped into the Man U dressing room during the break :D

sd_steve 2013-09-02 17:03

MU played a better game


You're making me laugh...

Chris Hanson 2013-09-02 17:28

BB & SD_Steve, you got to admit you got your money's worth out of Mignolet yesterday. He pulled off a couple of blinding saves to keep you in the game. Certainly the stronger of the 2 goalies on display in my opinion.

Orange 2013-09-03 07:47

[QUOTE=Flynn;167221]I hope MU makes a good signing of a midfielder by tonite[/QUOTE]

Marouane Fellaini. Going to be interesting to see how he fits in at United. At least Everton got a decent sum of money for him. And we did sign two other midfielders, so hopefully we didn't lose too much on the field.

Certainly will be somewhat down in the hair stakes though...no more mop-top in the midfield! :p

Flynn 2013-09-03 10:17

Last night kept me thinking about the transfer window - this seems to be modern day slavery:D

Orange 2013-09-03 10:57

Can't be slavery. If it was slavery, then the players would not be able to walk away from the "contract" so easily.

What it is, is obscene. 100 million Euro? For a football player? 27.5 mil GBP for Fellaini? Who's kidding who about the value of these players?

It's disgusting.

sd_steve 2013-09-03 17:04

[QUOTE=Orange;167335]Can't be slavery. If it was slavery, then the players would not be able to walk away from the "contract" so easily.

What it is, is obscene. 100 million Euro? For a football player? 27.5 mil GBP for Fellaini? Who's kidding who about the value of these players?

It's disgusting.[/QUOTE]

haha it's just sour grapes cause you lost your best player

Chris Hanson 2013-09-03 17:36

The money being thrown around the various leagues is obscene, but the truth is these "teams" are no different to global corporations.
Has anyone else noticed how football and the Formula 1 circus seem to have similar trends ? Middle East football club owners and new-ish races in Bahrain and Abu Dhaba. Indian F1 team, Indian F1 race and Blackburn Rovers are owned by India's Venky's chicken. Qatari's own Malaga football club and are proposing a bid to host an F1 race soon.
Seems all this "new money" is finding it's way into both football and F1 quite heavily.

Orange 2013-09-04 11:36

[QUOTE=sd_steve;167398]haha it's just sour grapes cause you lost your best player[/QUOTE]

Our best player? Please. I reckon we made a good investment there, and have already got a couple of useful replacements for an at best decent player. I reckon United are the ones who got shafted in this arrangement, they paid at least 10 million too much in the hope that the big number will obscure the fact that they didn't manage to land anyone of any real substance (a sign of the times perhaps?).

beetle bailey 2013-09-04 12:15

[QUOTE=Orange;167450]Our best player? Please. I reckon we made a good investment there, and have already got a couple of useful replacements for an at best decent player. I reckon United are the ones who got shafted in this arrangement, they paid at least 10 million too much in the hope that the big number will obscure the fact that they didn't manage to land anyone of any real substance (a sign of the times perhaps?).[/QUOTE]

Although Fellaini's leaving Everton will be a loss to them I too feel that Everton have actually come out of this transfer window in a stronger position than they were before it started. Getting players like Barry and McCarthey are going to compensate for the loss of Fellaini and then adding Lukuka to their strike force isn't a bad deal either. Added to this is a couple of million pounds credit in their bank account.

Very curious to know what the united supporters are thinking about the transfer(s) done by their club during this transfer window.

From a Liverpool perspective and looking at our dealings I'm pretty happy with the situation at our club. Doubt we'll be challenging for league honours but could perhaps be challenging for a top four finish.

te_lanus 2013-09-04 12:29

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;167455]Very curious to know what the united supporters are thinking about the transfer(s) done by their club during this transfer window. [/QUOTE]

Think Moyes/SAF could have brought in a few more big defensive players. Man U has great Attacking players, with great backup, but the defensive side is a total different story, if Vidic, Ferdinand and Evra gets hurt and is out for a long spell there isn't really great back up for them

This seems interesting: [url]http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12016/8905484/premier-league-quota-needed-to-protect-english-talent-says-glenn-hoddle[/url]

beetle bailey 2013-09-04 17:19

[QUOTE=te_lanus;167459]Think Moyes/SAF could have brought in a few more big defensive players. Man U has great Attacking players, with great backup, but the defensive side is a total different story, if Vidic, Ferdinand and Evra gets hurt and is out for a long spell there isn't really great back up for them

This seems interesting: [url]http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12016/8905484/premier-league-quota-needed-to-protect-english-talent-says-glenn-hoddle[/url][/QUOTE]

Not too sure about united's attacking abilities. Certainly rvp is a very good player and if rooney has his mind set on playing for united then he too can knock in a few goals. If fellaini plays as an attacking midfielder he will score a couple but as for the rest I'm not too sure. Goals will obviously be scored by others in the team but none of the other players stand out as great goalscorers that are going to score more than ten goals in the season.

Although you say united may struggle should ferdinand, evra or vidic get injured pretty much the same could be said should rvp get hurt.

A note to united supporters. I'm not trying to have a go at your club, at least I don't think so, but simply trying to find out how happy you are with what has happened during the transfer window.

How do the supporters of other clubs feel about the signings made and players allowed to leave their clubs during this period?

Chris Hanson 2013-09-04 17:36

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;167484]How do the supporters of other clubs feel about the signings made and players allowed to leave their clubs during this period?[/QUOTE]

I'm quite happy to see Assaidi join Stoke from Liverpool as a proper winger. To me it shows that Mark Hughes is determined to break the "long-ball" mentality that Tony Pulis drummed into the club. Hughes has also signed a couple of new defenders, but I don't think Stoke's defence was every lacking, they've always had a good back four, it's up front where we're a bit thin on the ground. There's just no-one of Suarez/Tevez/RVP's naturally ability currently at the Britannia :( From what I've seen so far, all of Stoke's goals have pretty much come from 18yd box scrambles.

Flynn 2013-09-05 11:52

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;167484]Not too sure about united's attacking abilities. Certainly rvp is a very good player and if rooney has his mind set on playing for united then he too can knock in a few goals. If fellaini plays as an attacking midfielder he will score a couple but as for the rest I'm not too sure. Goals will obviously be scored by others in the team but none of the other players stand out as great goalscorers that are going to score more than ten goals in the season.

Although you say united may struggle should ferdinand, evra or vidic get injured pretty much the same could be said should rvp get hurt.

A note to united supporters. I'm not trying to have a go at your club, at least I don't think so, but simply trying to find out how happy you are with what has happened during the transfer window.

How do the supporters of other clubs feel about the signings made and players allowed to leave their clubs during this period?[/QUOTE]

Looking at MU strategy over the years, they never went into any transfer window buying a number of players at a time, I think that their motto is simple, buy 1 or most 2 players per transfer window so that these players can fit well into the team. Not sure how Fellaini will fit into the team however no matter which position he plays in, he will be a huge threat in the aerial sector

sd_steve 2013-09-09 08:11

[QUOTE=Orange;167450]Our best player? Please. I reckon we made a good investment there, and have already got a couple of useful replacements for an at best decent player. I reckon United are the ones who got shafted in this arrangement, they paid at least 10 million too much in the hope that the big number will obscure the fact that they didn't manage to land anyone of any real substance (a sign of the times perhaps?).[/QUOTE]

You know he's your best player. Anichebe was also smart to leave before the collapse.

Once again Form is temporary, Class is permanent.

Aces n' Eights 2013-09-10 19:17

Urge all football fans to follow @DavidMoyesmU63 on twitter as he attempte to put #MUFC on the map

beetle bailey 2013-09-10 19:51

[QUOTE=Aces n' Eights;168160]Urge all football fans to follow @DavidMoyesmU63 on twitter as he attempte to put #MUFC on the map[/QUOTE]

Why? Why? Why? Got much better things to do with my time than follow that thread.

te_lanus 2013-09-10 22:07

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;168163]Why? Why? Why? Got much better things to do with my time than follow that thread.[/QUOTE]
Especially with it being a parody account, yet it's as funny as watching paint dry. the Owner really need to take a look at @ANN7Reporter how to be funny :D:p:eek:

te_lanus 2013-09-11 12:26

Info for BB and Steve:

Glen Johnson has handed Liverpool a massive injury blow with news the England defender could be out of action until Christmas.

beetle bailey 2013-09-11 16:30

[QUOTE=te_lanus;168214]Info for BB and Steve:

Glen Johnson has handed Liverpool a massive injury blow with news the England defender could be out of action until Christmas.[/QUOTE]

A blow yes but not the end of the world. We have cover in Wisdom who has played there before and done fairly well. Didn't he come on when Johnson got injured playing against manchester united? And we still never conceded a goal. But, I'll admit I'd rather have a fit Johnson in the side.

sd_steve 2013-09-11 16:50

[QUOTE=te_lanus;168214]Info for BB and Steve:

Glen Johnson has handed Liverpool a massive injury blow with news the England defender could be out of action until Christmas.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the Info. Not really a massive blow.

Orange 2013-09-12 12:57

[QUOTE=te_lanus;168214]Info for BB and Steve:

Glen Johnson has handed Liverpool a massive injury blow with news the England defender could be out of action until Christmas.[/QUOTE]

I very much doubt Johnson "handed" Liverpool anything at all. Whoever wrote that **** on Blitz should be fired on the spot. "Handed" indicates something you do, and that certainly isn't what happened here. He suffered an injury. What is so wrong with saying "Liverpool suffered a massive injury blow with the news that Glenn Johnson could be out of action until Christmas"? Someone tried to get too fancy, and got it wrong. You could maybe stretch to "Liverpool were handed a massive injury blow", but that's about it.

te_lanus 2013-09-12 18:11

I see there is a [URL="http://www.liverpoolladiesfc.com/news/tonights_programme.html"]game tonight[/URL] on in England that would have both BB, SD_Steve and Orange on the go if it was shown :P

[B]Liverpool (W) vs Everton (W)[/B]

Yip (w) = Women

Chris Hanson 2013-09-12 18:27

[QUOTE=te_lanus;168394]I see there is a [URL="http://www.liverpoolladiesfc.com/news/tonights_programme.html"]game tonight[/URL] on in England that would have both BB, SD_Steve and Orange on the go if it was shown :P

[B]Liverpool (W) vs Everton (W)[/B]

Yip (w) = Women[/QUOTE]

If my memory serves me right, I think it was SD_Steve who claimed "no-one watches womens" sport. :D

Flynn 2013-09-13 10:10

[COLOR=blue]Fixtures for this weekend[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=red]14 September 2013 [/COLOR][URL="http://www.premierleague.com/content/premierleague-ical/matchevent.html/694935.ics"][COLOR=red][IMG]http://www.premierleague.com/etc/designs/premierleague/images/shim.gif[/IMG] [/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=red]12:45[/COLOR]
[URL="http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2013-2014/epl.match-preview.html/man-utd-vs-crystal-palace"][COLOR=black]Man Utd v Crystal Palace[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=black] [/COLOR]
[URL="http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2013-2014/epl.match-preview.html/aston-villa-vs-newcastle"][COLOR=black]Aston Villa v Newcastle[/COLOR][/URL]
[COLOR=black]F[/COLOR][URL="http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2013-2014/epl.match-preview.html/fulham-vs-west-brom"][COLOR=black]ulham v West Brom[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2013-2014/epl.match-preview.html/hull-vs-cardiff"][COLOR=black]Hull v Cardiff[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2013-2014/epl.match-preview.html/spurs-vs-norwich"][COLOR=black]Tottenham v Norwich[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2013-2014/epl.match-preview.html/stoke-vs-man-city"][COLOR=black]Stoke v Man City[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2013-2014/epl.match-preview.html/sunderland-vs-arsenal"][COLOR=black]Sunderland v Arsenal[/COLOR][/URL]
[URL="http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2013-2014/epl.match-preview.html/everton-vs-chelsea"][COLOR=black]Everton v Chelsea[/COLOR][/URL]

[COLOR=red]15 September 2013[/COLOR]
[URL="http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2013-2014/epl.match-preview.html/southampton-vs-west-ham"][COLOR=black]Southampton v West Ham[/COLOR][/URL]

[COLOR=red]16 September 2013[/COLOR]
[URL="http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/matches/2013-2014/epl.match-preview.html/swansea-vs-liverpool"][COLOR=black]Swansea v Liverpool[/COLOR][/URL]

beetle bailey 2013-09-13 16:12

Another good week for Liverpool.

Manager of the Month for August ...... Brendan Rodgers.
Player of the Month for August ...... Daniel Sturridge

Then last night Liverpool Ladies by beating Everton Ladies by 4 goals to 2, think that was the correct score, only need one point more from their next game to wrap up the league title. Not sure WHICH Women's league this is but looking good for winning it.

And at the moment Liverpool top of the Barclays Premier League as well.

YNWA

Flynn 2013-09-13 16:15

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;168492]Another good week for Liverpool.

Manager of the Month for August ...... Brendan Rodgers.
Player of the Month for August ...... Daniel Sturridge

Then last night Liverpool Ladies by beating Everton Ladies by 4 goals to 2, think that was the correct score, only need one point more from their next game to wrap up the league title. Not sure WHICH Women's league this is but looking good for winning it.

And at the moment Liverpool top of the Barclays Premier League as well.

YNWA[/QUOTE]

Enjoy the feeling at the top whilst you'll can:D

beetle bailey 2013-09-14 13:20

[QUOTE=Flynn;168493]Enjoy the feeling at the top whilst you'll can:D[/QUOTE]

Yes it's great being up here. Been looking down but cannot see manchester united. Guess there must be too many other sides blocking my view. :D

However, I'm not having delusions of grandeur just yet and fully expect us to be 'dethroned' shortly.

sd_steve 2013-09-16 08:32

What a boring weekend of football in the premier League...Liverpool to go 3 points clear today...easy

te_lanus 2013-09-16 09:28

Let's see this weekend :P

Southampton's game was a very interesting game, West Ham can thank Jaaskelainen that they got a point out of it. But the ref in the game should take a few classes in reffing, as there should have been a straight red to the one Saints player for his two footed challenge.

Man U, hmm. How do they say, a win is a win, but can't see Anderson & Young staying long in the squad (and at ManU) if their performance doesn't improve, especially with kids like Januzaj that's breathing down their neck. But I'll still say Man U needed to buy at least two defenders & a defending Midfielder.

And Chelsea Lost to Everton :P

[QUOTE=sd_steve;168630]What a boring weekend of football in the premier League...Liverpool to go 3 points clear today...easy[/QUOTE]
Unless like Last season when Liverpool played in Wales, it ends up goalless :P

Flynn 2013-09-16 11:22

[QUOTE=te_lanus;168635]Man U, hmm. How do they say, a win is a win, but can't see Anderson & Young staying long in the squad (and at ManU) if their performance doesn't improve, especially with kids like Januzaj that's breathing down their neck. But I'll still say Man U needed to buy at least two defenders & a defending Midfielder.

And Chelsea Lost to Everton :P[/QUOTE]

MU won - Wayne Rooney scored a fabulous goal. This was the first win for Moyes at Old Trafford:D definitely more to come

According to Murinho, he put his best team on the field but was sad to lose 1-0 to Everton. Eto & co could have closed the game at the very beginning of the game but the Chelsea players left their scoring boots in the change room

MC drew 0-0. Well if MC want to win the EPL again, they must play as a team and get positive results

My predictions for tonite - Swansea 1 - 0 Liverpool. Rodgers is gonna pay for leaving Swansea:D

te_lanus 2013-09-17 10:22

[QUOTE=sd_steve;168630]What a boring weekend of football in the premier League...Liverpool to go 3 points clear today...easy[/QUOTE]

not really, if it wasn't for an old Liverpool player gifting Liverpool two goals Swansea would have won easily :D:p

sd_steve 2013-09-17 11:18

[QUOTE=te_lanus;168718]not really, if it wasn't for an old Liverpool player gifting Liverpool two goals Swansea would have won easily :D:p[/QUOTE]

Yip, unfortunately...but I'm glab that chrome dome, terrible goal celebrator is out of the club.

He scored one incredible goal for liverpool and I thank the young boy for that but he disrespected the don (Gerrard) and he went against the family...

Flynn 2013-09-17 18:41

Liverpool has won 3 in a row and now a draw, next game should be a loss:D

beetle bailey 2013-09-17 20:27

[QUOTE=Flynn;168796]Liverpool has won 3 in a row and now a draw, next game should be a loss:D[/QUOTE]

You predicting this or merely being hopeful? :rolleyes:

Not the best of performances by Liverpool last night but not too disappointed with coming away with the one point. Only two sides in the Premier League unbeaten so far. Strange that they both come from Merseyside.

Flynn 2013-09-18 08:36

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;168807]Only two sides in the Premier League unbeaten so far. Strange that they both come from Merseyside.[/QUOTE]

Lets see how long that last and where these 2 teams finish off at the end of the season

Last night I was watching the build up to the CL game and Barnes was very skeptical that he will be chanting for Liverpool next year - he is not too sure that this Liverpool team has what it takes to qualify for the CL:D

te_lanus 2013-09-18 09:40

[off-topic]
Did anyone seen Blitz this morning? Seems AmaZulu keeper Tapuwa Kapini has made the blunder of the season so far. Tried to find a video online of it but can't, not even SS has this awesome piece of comedy
[/off-topic]

Flynn 2013-09-18 11:18

[QUOTE=te_lanus;168838][off-topic]
Did anyone seen Blitz this morning? Seems AmaZulu keeper Tapuwa Kapini has made the blunder of the season so far. Tried to find a video online of it but can't, not even SS has this awesome piece of comedy
[/off-topic][/QUOTE]

Hopefully Blitz still has this highlights this afternoon - I would loved to see that mistake/blunder:D

te_lanus 2013-09-21 18:54

so, what's going on at Liverpool? drawn game on Monday (only because an ex-Liverpool player gifting Liverpool 2 goals) and Losing to "lowly" Southampton?

Brendz 2013-09-21 19:10

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[QUOTE=te_lanus;169101]so, what's going on at Liverpool? drawn game on Monday (only because an ex-Liverpool player gifting Liverpool 2 goals) and Losing to "lowly" Southampton?[/QUOTE]

Its the boom-bust cycle.

beetle bailey 2013-09-22 12:14

[QUOTE=te_lanus;169101]so, what's going on at Liverpool? drawn game on Monday (only because an ex-Liverpool player gifting Liverpool 2 goals) and Losing to "lowly" Southampton?[/QUOTE]

Well, it's not as if other sides haven't also lost to "lowly" sides. As things stand there's only one unbeaten side in the league and that is Everton. Another Merseyside team.

But yes, Liverpool lost on Saturday and deservedly so. Played very poorly and because of this got what we deserved. Hopefully, with Hannibal, sorry, with Suarez coming back we'll be a bit more competitive once again.

Don't forget, after all, that Rodgers is in the rebuilding phase of getting the club back to where we belong. :D

beetle bailey 2013-09-22 12:19

[QUOTE=Brendz;169103]Its the boom-bust cycle.[/QUOTE]

No NO you don't understand. THAT has been the case for the past couple of years. THIS year it's different. :o

Good one Brendz. Hope you saving it for when it's going to be applying to other teams in the league as well.

Flynn 2013-09-23 15:30

[QUOTE=Flynn;168796]Liverpool has won 3 in a row and now a draw, next game should be a loss:D[/QUOTE]

Got that prediction on the nail:) and that was an upset

MC vs MU - Did MU attend this game, damn they were all over the park, pathetic for such a team. MC outplayed MU in every sector. When the 2-0, bleak memories came to mind about the 6-1 thrashing that we got about 2 years ago from MC. RVP was injured, so Welbeck was played, why didn't Moyes keep the same side as he did in the CL game. Rooney scored a fantastic free kick

I still say that its early days but if teams are playing like this, we are going to see a good end to the season

beetle bailey 2013-09-23 17:51

united supporters cannot be feeling too happy with the way things are going at the moment. Losing to both arch enemies. First Liverpool and now Manchester City. :D

At the moment most of the top sides are not having things all their own way irrespective of who they are playing. Spurs only managed an injury time winner against Cardiff City as an example. Already commented on Southampton's victory over Liverpool.

As Flynn says, there's still a long way to go to the end of the season so anything can still happen. united in the relegation zone? :rolleyes: Don't worry only joking as I cannot see that happening. What is the matter with kagawa that he doesn't get picked? Similar situation to Mata and Luiz at Chelsea.

te_lanus 2013-09-23 20:59

ya, Man U played very poorly. I do understand that some say that RVP didn't play, and that Man U could have done Better with RVP playing. (or so me read on a few other forums). But "Some say that not even the[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=X_Olto-C5K8#t=85"] Stig's Chinese Brother[/URL]" can save Man U with the Current lack of defensive players.

Man U quite a few "great" attackers the last few years yet on defence only a few (and most don't play for the first team.) You have to go back to the end f the 2010-2011 season to get the last first team signing, and that was De Gea (29 Jun, 2011). Methinks that Moyes will have to dip back into the Transfer Market during January to buy a few defenders, as the current Fist team defenders seem not being able to cope. and doubt the "young" defenders (Buttner, Keane, and friends) is experienced enough to play at EPL level.

and me see Sunderland is without a manager

Brendz 2013-09-23 21:20

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;169159] What is the matter with kagawa that he doesn't get picked? Similar situation to Mata and Luiz at Chelsea.[/QUOTE]

Chelsea and United's team selections and tactics have been baffling. the way chelsea set up against united with no strikers and no Mata was something only Mourinho could get away with, and Moyes clearly prefers the work horse to the flair player, how Ashley young and Valencia are commanding first team spots ahead of Kagawa and Nani is mind boggling.

beetle bailey 2013-09-25 11:22

Not the league I know but did anyone watch the Capitac League Cup game between Spurs and Villa last night? Think the main talking point about that game will be the incident where, in my opinion, Villa should have been given a penalty. The referee however thought otherwise. I've heard of pulling on a players jersey but this incident, although appearing to be accidental, took the cake. Suggest, if you haven't seen it, you look at the highlights package or on Supersport Blitz. Pretty funny..... if you not a Villa supporter.

Orange 2013-09-26 12:57

Penalty, and red card. Harsh, but correct.

The Spurs defender held on to the clothing (pants are no different to shirt), and one cannot argue that the Villa striker was not impeded (it's hell hard to get a proper shot off with your pants around your knees).

As the last defender, a clear goal scoring opportunity was hindered illegally, and therefore the red card.

sd_steve 2013-09-29 22:08

I would just like to say unlucky to the United fans...mind you they don't come on here anymore since their team is so jut...Toto?

Anyway Liverpool FC...Suarez...Sturridge...Mingolet...Stevie G...Jose Henrique...Lucas...Toure...Skrtel...Agger...Mascherano...Xabi Alonso...Coutinho...Iron Rush...Keegan...Dalglish... you can't keep a good team down

Flynn 2013-09-30 07:49

[QUOTE=sd_steve;169495]I would just like to say unlucky to the United fans...mind you they don't come on here anymore since their team is so jut...Toto?

Anyway Liverpool FC...Suarez...Sturridge...Mingolet...Stevie G...Jose Henrique...Lucas...Toure...Skrtel...Agger...Mascherano...Xabi Alonso...Coutinho...Iron Rush...Keegan...Dalglish... you can't keep a good team down[/QUOTE]

Wow Steve - thanks for the chuckle on a Monday morning

As a MU supporter, I am trying very hard to be confident that MU will make a huge turnaround and start winning on an on going basis - only time will tell

As I said in the beginning of this season that this will be the most interesting season ever due to so many new managers in the EPL and it is living up to its reputation

MC lost, MU lost, Chelsea drew

Well done Liverpool & Arsenal - lets see how long these 2 clubs keep it up

te_lanus 2013-09-30 08:17

[QUOTE=sd_steve;169495]I would just like to say unlucky to the United fans...mind you they don't come on here anymore since their team is so jut...Toto?[/QUOTE]I still say Man U could go on to win the league (but I doubt that they will this season):o.

But I still say that the current "lack" of form could be attributed to a lack of buying good defenders.

But then there seems to be a cycle in sport where, if one focus on one "team" alone without bringing in new talent, (and giving them play time), that there will be a time when these players getting to their end of career stage that the team will suffer. Just look at Rugby and Cricket. Australia & West Indies is going thru that phase as they relied way too heavily on a few players and when these retired the teams went totally off the boil. (The Proteas are beginning with the same Problem :P)

Sandtonman 2013-09-30 09:03

[QUOTE=Flynn;169502].....Well done Liverpool & Arsenal - lets see how long these 2 clubs keep it up.....[/QUOTE]

Thanks Flynn, I think I'm the only active Gooner here in the DSTV Forum?

We are having a good run for sure; trouble is we have little strength in depth; we rarely keep a clean sheet and we need a decent striker.

The bench looks worryingly lightweight. So keeping up this current run, with a difficult Champions' league pool to contend with, will no doubt result in injuries. Then it will be very tough for us to maintain form.

Holding my breath that we can make it through to the December transfer window!

Notwithstanding all the above, it's great to turn on Sky news on a Monday morning to hear that Arsenal is top and about other clubs' woes :) Long may it last!

Cheers, K.

Toto 2013-09-30 09:05

[QUOTE=sd_steve;169495]I would just like to say unlucky to the United fans...mind you they don't come on here anymore since their team is so jut...Toto?

Anyway Liverpool FC...Suarez...Sturridge...Mingolet...Stevie G...Jose Henrique...Lucas...Toure...Skrtel...Agger...Mascherano...Xabi Alonso...Coutinho...Iron Rush...Keegan...Dalglish... you can't keep a good team down[/QUOTE]

@Steve How much do you want to bet? MAN U will finish heads and shoulders ABOVE LFC probably 3rd or higher.

sd_steve 2013-09-30 17:45

[QUOTE=Toto;169514]@Steve How much do you want to bet? MAN U will finish heads and shoulders ABOVE LFC probably 3rd or higher.[/QUOTE]

Put me down for half a mil.

beetle bailey 2013-09-30 21:01

david moyes spent eleven years trying to get Everton above manchester united. This year he's finally done it. :D

united had one saving grace over the weekend and that was that, with the exception of Arsenal and perhaps Liverpool, all the other normal contenders for the league title dropped points. Spurs drawing with Chelsea and Manchester City losing.
So although they lost and are currently in 12th spot, points wise they never lost too much ground.

Arsenal looking good but perhaps as Sandtonman mentioned they haven't got the squad to see them perform on too many fronts. Premier League, League Cup, Champions League and FA Cup. But with the January transfer window perhaps they'll obtain a couple more players which will then enable them to challenge a bit more strongly in these competitions.

Manchester City and Chelsea, I think, have fairly strong squads as things stand at the moment so can see them climbing to the top positions.

The cream will always rise to the top, notwithstanding the odd hiccup along the way. However, I'm not too sure whether manchester united can be included in this group.

Liverpool got another decent victory but once again it wasn't a pretty one. We seem to have lost the art of free flowing football like we displayed in the early part of the season. But rather ugly victories than pretty pretty football and not getting the results.

Flynn 2013-10-01 12:42

Off the EPL topic but this man was in charge of Man City

Galatasaray say they have hired former Manchester City manager Roberto Mancini to replace Fatih Terim as coach. Galatasaray said in a statement on its website Monday that Mancini signed a three-year contract and will be paid 3.5 million euros for the upcoming season, with his salary upped to 4.5 million euros for the next two campaigns. Terim's contract was terminated by the club last week after he rejected a two-year extension. One of Turkey's best known coaches, Terim last month started his third stint as manager of Turkey's national team. Galatasaray plays Juventus on Wednesday in the Champions League.

Chris Hanson 2013-10-01 17:42

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;169594]david moyes spent eleven years trying to get Everton above manchester united. This year he's finally done it. :D
[/QUOTE]

BB, you have just made my day :D

The pace Everton played at last evening was blinding, it could easily been 5 - 0 by halftime. No wonder they're the only unbeaten team in the EPL. I have to agree with all the other forumites who've been saying the change in managers at so many teams has turned the league on it's head.

Not too chuffed about Mark Hughes at Stoke though. Seems he's convinced them to abandon the long-ball approach, but they seem to be playing over complicated football now. Using 10 passes where 3 would suffice. The number of times they lose pocesssion during long winded build-ups is staggering. Got to try and find the kind of game Spurs play so well.

beetle bailey 2013-10-01 20:03

Everton really have been a revelation this season and were most impressive in the first half against Newcastle. Second half less so.

They basically have the same side as last year with the exception of Lukaku and maybe one or two others while they've lost fellaini who was one of their main players last year. Yet, Everton seem to be performing a lot better than in most of the past couple of years. Still early days I'll admit but it seems like their new manager is able to get more out of them than moyes did.

moyes struggling at united and with a stronger squad of players so is he perhaps not as good a manager as some like to think he is?

Chris, don't worry about the passing game. Liverpool were good at it at the beginning of the season but now that system seems to have evaporated and we playing the more direct game while also giving the ball away far too easily with stupid and reckless passes.

beetle bailey 2013-10-02 11:38

Just wondering where all the manchester united supporters on this thread have gone to? Flynn still posting but what has happened to Toto who only seems to be posting when united win games. Could have some other genuine excuse I suppose.

Then where's Tulani gone to? His team Chelsea, if I've got that right, aren't doing all that badly so there's no need for him to be hiding. Is there?

Tulani 2013-10-02 12:07

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;169714]

Then where's Tulani gone to? His team Chelsea, if I've got that right, aren't doing all that badly so there's no need for him to be hiding. Is there?[/QUOTE]

the forum's achilles heel has been affecting me.

I have been resorting to watching from a distance.

Flynn 2013-10-07 10:05

It was great to see MU back on winning ways, 2 good goals from the youngster

It was a good weekend of football but the ref gave two stupid decisions, firstly the Liverpool penalty and secondly the MC penalty, both Sterling & Zabalata fell for no reason and they were awarded penalties for their respective clubs

beetle bailey 2013-10-07 12:42

One of the main requirements of being a professional footballer is having the ability to fall down easily. Didn't Valencia also go down without being touched this weekend. Here at least the ref got it right.

However, diving, by any player of any team, needs to be eradicated from the game. This and jersey pulling.

Once again the so called lowly teams did themselves proud with West Ham beating big spending Spurs and West Brom managing to hold Arsenal to a draw. Then in another battle of the mid table sides united finally managed to get the better of high flying Sunderland by 2 goals to 1. Oops. Sorry Sunderland not one of the other mid table sides. My mistake. ;)

With the way the so called top teams are going I think it's going to take a good few more games to discover just who are the sides that will be fighting it out for a Champions League spot.

sd_steve 2013-10-18 10:54

I'm fed up with international breaks...they should remove international football completely and just have club football.

Liverpool to demolish Newcastle 5 - 0. Peace.

beetle bailey 2013-10-18 17:51

[QUOTE=sd_steve;170714]I'm fed up with international breaks...they should remove international football completely and just have club football.

Liverpool to demolish Newcastle 5 - 0. Peace.[/QUOTE]

Must say that although I watch the International games, some of them, I agree that I'd rather watch the English Premiership games. Instead of having these International breaks I wish they would rather play all the International games at the end of a season. Thinking about it, why can't they? The present breaks for International football could rather be used for club games which would complete the club season a bit sooner. Then play all the International games they want. In this way clubs won't be inconvenienced by players getting injured while away on international duty. Sounds good to me but obviously there are drawbacks somewhere.

sd_steve - Only giving us five goals? :D Should be another win for us and I'm expecting nothing else.

Flynn 2013-10-18 19:23

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;170752]sd_steve - Only giving us five goals? :D Should be another win for us and I'm expecting nothing else.[/QUOTE]

I hope Liverpool lose so that you 2 can come back down to earth:D

beetle bailey 2013-10-19 12:52

[QUOTE=Flynn;170760]I hope Liverpool lose so that you 2 can come back down to earth:D[/QUOTE]

:) Nothing is impossible and it's not impossible for Newcastle United to get the victory but it would then be a very surprising result. Can see Liverpool coming away with a victory but maybe not by a great margin. I'll settle for any kind of victory.

Sandtonman 2013-10-19 18:07

AFC!
 
Why is this thread so exceptionally quiet this afternoon? :p
Cheers, K.

beetle bailey 2013-10-20 11:19

[QUOTE=Sandtonman;170789]Why is this thread so exceptionally quiet this afternoon? :p
Cheers, K.[/QUOTE]

hic, hic. Sorry, that's the sound of me recovering from my hangover. Been drinking to drown my sorrows. :o

Poor, no make that, very poor result for Liverpool against Newcastle United. Although we got a draw out of it so it wasn't a complete disaster, it was still a game that we should have won. United played for the whole of the second half with only ten men and yet we still struggled to break them down.

I wasn't online yesterday as I was attending my grandson's birthday party and only watched a recording to the Liverpool game last night hence my reason for not being online sooner.

manchester united supporters have, on the whole, been very quiet over the past couple of weeks with Flynn, perhaps, being the only one posting fairly regularly. The other united supporters one never hears from anymore. I wonder why that is? :D

Congratulations to Sandtonman and his team on yet another fine performance and his Arsenal team seem to be the most consistent side in the league at the moment. However, like Liverpool, I'm not too sure whether Arsenal have played any of the so called quality teams yet? Quality on paper that is. Sides like Chelsea, Manchester City and Spurs as examples.
I would have mentioned manchester united here but everybody seems to be taking points off them this season. Even lowly Liverpool have managed this. :rolleyes:

Sandtonman 2013-10-20 13:36

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;170814]Congratulations to Sandtonman and his team on yet another fine performance and his Arsenal team seem to be the most consistent side in the league at the moment. However, like Liverpool, I'm not too sure whether Arsenal have played any of the so called quality teams yet? .....[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the magnanimity, bb.
Well we've beaten Spurs, Napoli and Marseille. So those were all big wins and taken annually (rather than seasonally) we are top scorers by a mile.

Big upcoming games are Dortmund on Tuesday, that will be a real test, but at least it's at home; your boys on 2 Nov and MU on the 11th. Plus some less high-pressure games.

Let's see whether the form holds. Self-belief is a remarkable tool. We have that at the moment, for sure. Let's stay injury-free and it will help take off the pressure of playing in all 4 major tournaments.

I don't think poor old Moyes has any idea whether he is Arthur or Martha at the moment. SAF handed him a hospital pass for sure and he did not see it coming. (Goodison Park is only around 30 miles from Old Trafford, as the crow flies; but it's a million miles away in footballing reality) I never liked SAF as person, but I'll be the first to acknowledge his skills as a consistent, exceptional, top-flight manager. Moyes' big mistake was to ignore SAF's advice to stick with the existing coaching staff and not to change too much, too soon. They will come right for sure; question is, how soon?

Cheers, K.

Sandtonman 2013-10-20 13:43

Surprised not to see Tulani with a smile on his face after a 4-1 win and up to second spot. Where are you T?
Cheers, K.

Toto 2013-10-20 15:08

[QUOTE=Sandtonman;170820]Surprised not to see Tulani with a smile on his face after a 4-1 win and up to second spot. Where are you T?
Cheers, K.[/QUOTE]

All of a sudden Sandtonman has regained his love for the EPL again. Wooow! Astonishing!!:)

I think we United fans, the new gunners, have taken a sabattical.

It will only get worst before it gets better again...

Sandtonman 2013-10-20 21:39

[QUOTE=Toto;170821]All of a sudden Sandtonman has regained his love for the EPL again. Wooow! Astonishing!!:) ...[/QUOTE]

Never lost it Toto, been to the Emirates 3 times this year, so-far, and 3 wins; though one was the Champions' league qualifier. (I fortunately missed the Villa debacle, though we had tickets available). Just [I][B]maybe[/B][/I] it's going to be our season.
Cheers K.

Tulani 2013-10-21 09:50

[QUOTE=Sandtonman;170820]Surprised not to see Tulani with a smile on his face after a 4-1 win and up to second spot. Where are you T?
Cheers, K.[/QUOTE]

i am around but mostly in the background now.

lets just put these united guys to sword!

Flynn 2013-10-21 13:09

Pathetic performance by MU again this weekend - at the rate the current MU team is playing, I would imagine that there will be a lot of MU supporters suffering from severe stress levels

I am not sure what Moyes want to achieve with MU - they are not playing like they used too and this is frustrating from a MU supporter

Arsenal is still riding the wave, Chelsea and MC are also doing well

Liverpool could not beat 10 Newcastle:p

beetle bailey 2013-10-21 14:34

[QUOTE=Flynn;170877]Liverpool could not beat 10 Newcastle:p[/QUOTE]

Already stated that it wasn't a very good performance by Liverpool. Although we are sitting fairly high on the log at the moment we haven't yet played Chelsea, Arsenal, Manchester City or Spurs who are all sides that should be there or thereabouts come the end of the season. Once we have played a couple of those sides I think we'll all have a better idea of just how good Liverpool really are. Or aren't. At the moment we're doing reasonably well even if we only drew against TEN MAN Newcastle.

Most of the sides, including those currently at the top, maybe excepting Arsenal, are often struggling to get victories over sides that one would expect them to beat comfortably. Think that this year we have to wait for a number of more games to be played before clear favourites for the top four positions become known.

Chris Hanson 2013-10-21 15:09

There's nothing worth saying about Stoke's start to the season. I was worried about Mark Hughes signing defenders and wingers during the trasfer window, when what the Potters neede was some soliding striking power. Seems my concerns were justified. 1 goal since the end of August, and only 4 goals all season. (That's just about half what Sturridge has scored on his own) Spoke to a friend of mine who went to the Stoke MC game and he said the same thing. Stoke created plenty of chances, but no-one looked like putting them away. Hughes might have got them to give up the long-ball tactic, but t doesn't help if you can't convert pocession into goals.

beetle bailey 2013-10-26 10:50

Strange how this thread has become so very QUIET recently. Could it be because a certain side isn't performing quite as well as some would have them perform? What happened to all the "I'll be supporting my team even when they are struggling" type of comments I heard from some of you not too long ago?

Very little comment even about alex ferguson's book and how he's had a go at just about anyone in order to generate sales. Steven Gerrard not being a good player? Yet alex wanted to sign him? Having a go at old united players who served the club very well, beckham and keane.

I'll admit the above could perhaps have been taken out of context seeing as how I've not read the book but it's what a number of people in the press have been commenting on.

Match of the weekend must be the Chelsea versus Manchester City one which could go either way.

Hopefully Liverpool can overcome West Brom who I believe have beaten us fairly regularly recently. Sigh. :(

beetle bailey 2013-10-28 11:35

Well, we overcame West Brom and kept up our good start to the season. Some good goals scored by Suarez and not a bad "chip" by Sturridge either. Defence at times still looks a bit shaky though and could cause us problems when we come up against stronger opposition.

manchester united managed a win against Stoke but believe the players were booed off the field at half time? Never watched the game so cannot comment on whether this was justified or not.

Spurs, I believe, were lucky to be awarded a penalty and also didn't impress?

Torres for Chelsea I thought had a very good game even if he did miss a fairly simple chance early on when he blazed over the bar from close in with only the keeper to beat. Hart gifted Chelsea their second goal when he came charging out of his goal area to clear a ball which a defender seemed to have well under control. Bad mistake and one which now sees both Manchester sides sitting just above mid table on the log. Certain this will only be temporary and that both these sides will finish higher in the league than where they currently are.

Arsenal continue on their winning ways and next week's game against Liverpool should be an interesting one. Unfortunately, being the eternal pessimist, I cannot see Liverpool winning this one and will be happy with a draw. However a loss for Liverpool is more what I'm expecting. Don't think our defence can handle the Giroud's, Ozil's, Ramsey's and one or two others.

Flynn 2013-10-28 13:41

At the rate MU is playing these days, MU supporters will take the 3 points no matter how they come

Liverpool & Arsenal had good wins but they will know how good they are this weekend when they meet one another - this could go either way

The "Oil Classico" Chelsea vs Man City lived up to its reputation. Torres to me was the man of the match. Good win by Chelsea

Chris Hanson 2013-10-28 17:22

Stoke blew it against MU on Saturday, we should have at least hung on for a draw, but they just went onto the back foot in the second half. Missed Crouch's goal but Arnautovic's free kick was a blinder. Moyes looked extremely relieved at the final whistle.

Must admit, it's been a while since I've seen Mourinho that "animated" :D

Toto 2013-11-01 09:31

It's been a rocky start but we stand by our new manager. He will get it right. It's always been about the club @ Manchester United.
Regardless, of Man U somewhat poor performances. This season is really exciting. I'm enjoying the title race every single week.

Predictions for the weekend:

Arsenal 2 - Liverpool 2
Everton 2 - Spurs 0
Fulham 1 - United 2
NewCastle 1 - Chelsea 3

City to win against their opponents as well.

Can't wait for the busy Xmas period.

Sandtonman 2013-11-01 10:15

Arsenal vs. Liverpool.....
 
..... Big test at home after 2 consecutive home losses (but neither in the Premier League), for the Gunners of London.

Liverpool are on form. Should be a good match. Holding my breath

Cheers, K.

beetle bailey 2013-11-01 11:53

Would love a win, settle for a draw but expecting a loss. Even though we, Liverpool. have started off very well we haven't, apart from manchester united, played any of the "top" teams yet. Arsenal will be a better test of just how far Liverpool have come.

Should be a decent game and is the game of this weekend. Hopefully, I'll be smiling come Saturday night and Sandtonman will be the one crying. But somehow I'm thinking it will be the other way round. :o

Toto 2013-11-01 12:05

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;171926]Would love a win, settle for a draw but expecting a loss. Even though we, Liverpool. have started off very well we haven't, apart from manchester united, played any of the "top" teams yet. Arsenal will be a better test of just how far Liverpool have come.

Should be a decent game and is the game of this weekend. Hopefully, I'll be smiling come Saturday night and Sandtonman will be the one crying. But somehow I'm thinking it will be the other way round. :o[/QUOTE]

BB, I actually think Liverpool are well poised for an upset. Not sure Arsenal can cope with Suarez/Sturridge. As much as I dislike Liverpool I must admit they are playing like a proper Premier League again which is really nice to see! It will be a high-score hopefully draw;)

sd_steve 2013-11-01 14:17

[QUOTE=Toto;171929]BB, I actually think Liverpool are well poised for an upset. Not sure Arsenal can cope with Suarez/Sturridge. As much as I dislike Liverpool I must admit they are playing like a proper Premier League again which is really nice to see! It will be a high-score hopefully draw;)[/QUOTE]

SAS special forces...predictions:
8 - 2 (Liverpool)
2 - 0 (Pirates)
[the only games that matter this weekend]

beetle bailey 2013-11-02 21:33

Disappointed but not devastated following Liverpool's loss to Arsenal by 2 - 0. Although Arsenal deserved the victory Liverpool never disgraced themselves and performed relatively well. Congratulations Sandtonman!!

manchester united looked like they were going to run away with the result against Fulham and I was surprised that they never managed to score more than the quick three goals they got in the first half.

As for the two other League contenders what a contrast. Manchester City drilling seven past Norwich while Chelsea went down to Newcastle by 2 - 0 which must be the shock result of the day.

Sandtonman 2013-11-02 21:56

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;172059]....Disappointed but not devastated following Liverpool's loss to Arsenal by 2 - 0. Although Arsenal deserved the victory Liverpool never disgraced themselves and performed relatively well. Congratulations Sandtonman!!.....[/QUOTE]

Thanks BB; it was a great evening for the Gunners, for sure; clean sheet is very important, too.

Liverpool played well and arguably should have been allowed to play on to score after Sagna's foul.

Suarez and Sturridge failed to stamp their seal on the game and Stevie G did not really feature. Whereas all Arsenal's players were on good form and gelled well as a team. That tipped the balance IMHO.

Big week ahead for Arsenal. Away at both Dortmund and MU. Holding breath :eek:

Cheers, K.

sd_steve 2013-11-03 11:35

Well it wasn't the worst display...but Coutinho is of no use when we don't have the ball and Gerrard was absolutely flat. We really missed Jose Enrique that game.

beetle bailey 2013-11-03 14:02

[QUOTE=sd_steve;172076]Well it wasn't the worst display...but Coutinho is of no use when we don't have the ball and Gerrard was absolutely flat. We really missed Jose Enrique that game.[/QUOTE]

Could add Johnson as well but then Arsenal were without a couple of their "named" players as well. But yes, from Liverpool's perspective we missed both Enrique and Johnson who would perhaps have been more effective than those who took their places. Although I thought Flanagan didn't do too badly.

Sandtonman, I am obviously hoping for Liverpool to win the league but at the same time realise that the chances of this happening are virtually nil, so am hoping Arsenal are able to go all the way. Provided, that is, they don't go out and get Suarez come the January transfer period.:mad:

Flynn 2013-11-04 07:48

Wow what a weekend if you a MU supporter - MU beat Fulham 3-1, Chelsea lost to Newcastle, Arsenal beat Liverpool, Spurs & Everton drew. The point gap does not look too bad for MU now. If MU beat Arsenal this weekend, then I would think that Moyes got his troops playing the football that he intended when he came to MU

MC gave Norwich a good football lesson, 7-0 goal feast

Cardiff City rule the rights to brag in Wales when they beat Swansea 1-0 yesterday

Toto 2013-11-04 09:12

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;172059]As for the two other League contenders what a contrast. Manchester City drilling seven past Norwich while Chelsea went down to Newcastle by 2 - 0 which must be the shock result of the day.[/QUOTE]

So MU are league contenders again right? A few weeks ago, we were written off. Not getting carried away just yet but I think RVP and company can't wait to make a statement against Arsenal on Sunday. By a mile, the biggest and most anticipated match of the season so far!

Sandtonman 2013-11-04 09:41

[QUOTE=Toto;172152]......... By a mile, the biggest and most anticipated match of the season so far!........[/QUOTE]

[B]For sure, Toto! Cheers, K.[/B]

beetle bailey 2013-11-04 12:56

[QUOTE=Toto;172152]So MU are league contenders again right? A few weeks ago, we were written off. Not getting carried away just yet but I think RVP and company can't wait to make a statement against Arsenal on Sunday. By a mile, the biggest and most anticipated match of the season so far![/QUOTE]

Saying cheers to Toto for another two or maybe three weeks as I'm hoping for an Arsenal victory next week. Therefore, if this comes to pass Toto may once again be conspicuous by his absence. :D

All in the name of friendly banter. ;)

Chris Hanson 2013-11-04 14:32

Well, Stoke have found themselves a striker, problem is, he's the bloody goalkeeper :D

Toto 2013-11-04 16:04

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;172222]Saying cheers to Toto for another two or maybe three weeks as I'm hoping for an Arsenal victory next week. Therefore, if this comes to pass Toto may once again be conspicuous by his absence. :D

All in the name of friendly banter. ;)[/QUOTE]

Been busy - Nothing else:) Check my post on Friday last week...

beetle bailey 2013-11-04 16:16

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;172235]Well, Stoke have found themselves a striker, problem is, he's the bloody goalkeeper :D[/QUOTE]

I believe that with this one goal he's also the top goalscorer for Stoke this season? Equal with one or more others.:eek:

Chris Hanson 2013-11-04 17:46

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;172253]I believe that with this one goal he's also the top goalscorer for Stoke this season? Equal with one or more others.:eek:[/QUOTE]

That is probably the saddest statistic ever :(

beetle bailey 2013-11-04 21:11

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;172269]That is probably the saddest statistic ever :([/QUOTE]

Not sure if that comment of mine was accurate or not but I'm certain that's what I heard one of the commentators, or newreaders, say.

Sandtonman 2013-11-07 08:41

To the Arsenal, - 1 nil !
 
..... Buoyed by last night's "metal" performance at Dortmund, I am really now looking forward to Arsenal going to Old Trafford on Sunday.

MU will throw everything at us for sure, there is much at stake for both clubs; but I feel we are on a real roll, particularly "away" for some obscure reason. It's a match that could easily go either way.

Can't wait for the match!
Cheers, K.

beetle bailey 2013-11-09 11:23

Looking forward to the game of the weekend on Sunday. Arsenal playing manchester united. Arsenal being top of the league and having also beaten Borussia Dortmund during the week have shown they have the potential to be League Champion contenders. united on the other hand haven't done so yet. A win against Arsenal may indicate that they too are on the up but a loss could possibly spell the end of their league hopes.

I somehow think the united supporters are very fearful of this game as there has been nothing, apart from a reference to the game made by Toto a couple of days ago, posted by any of them.

Hoping, naturally for me, that the game is either a win for Arsenal or at worst a draw. Not interested in having Arsenal dropping points as I cannot see Liverpool overtaking them on the log.

Sandtonman 2013-11-11 08:26

Oh, well -- Arsenal's unblemished away run is over.
MU was a slightly better team on the day, though both looked vulnerable on occasions.
I think we were a bit nervous and rushed initially; MU successfully stopped out midfield from combining to become a real threat.
If our attack had demonstrated a little more commitment I think we could have scored an equaliser. Sagna's work-rate was amazing. He set both Ozil and the terrible (Arsene please get rid of him to anybody in January) Bendtner, for scoring opportunities; neither of them rose to the challenge.
Some comfort to know that all the teams at the top of the league are equally vulnerable. It's an exciting build up to the Christmas period, for sure.
Congrats to the MU supporters, here.
(EDIT: Also well done to the Liverpool fans -- a very strong showing, for sure)
Cheers, K.

Toto 2013-11-11 09:38

WRITE US OFF AT YOUR OWN RISK! :D

GAME ON!!!

beetle bailey 2013-11-11 12:07

[QUOTE=Toto;172872]WRITE US OFF AT YOUR OWN RISK! :D

GAME ON!!![/QUOTE]

Darn! :mad: Just when I thought that this was the year that we see the demise of united they put on a performance like this and climb a couple of rangs up the league ladder.

Overall I thought that united deserved the victory and that rooney had a pretty good game. Maybe I don't view the games in the same way as others but I hardly noticed Ozil. Especially in the first half. Game started with united completely dominating proceedings but then Arsenal came back into it. Unfortunately, for some of us, they just weren't able to put the ball into the back of the net. Oh well on a positive note Liverpool now only two points away from first place on the log.:D

Anyone watch the Spurs/Newcastle game? Kindly explain to me how Spurs failed to score? Or was it simply down to the Newcastle goalkeeper? Krul. One of the best goalkeeping displays I've seen for a long time coupled perhaps with a bit of luck thrown in. Also one or two good defensive tackles. Spurs, as the saying goes, threw everything including the kitchen sink, at Newcastle but couldn't get to score. Remarkable game in this regard.

Manchester City? Losing to lowly Sunderland was I think the shock result of the weekend while Chelsea had to rely on a very dubious penalty decision in their favour in the last minute of injury time to secure a draw against West Brom. Crystal Palace getting a draw against Everton also wasn't a result that I'd seen coming.

These sort of results make for an interesting season and long may they continue. Only problem though is that my Superbru predictions are even worse this week than they normally are. :mad:

Chris Hanson 2013-11-11 12:28

I agree, Krul was in awesome form. Spurs should have walked away from this game with half a dozen goals in the bag, yet they simply couldn't find a way past the keeper. No wonder Pardew rates him so highly.

Flynn 2013-11-13 19:28

[QUOTE=Toto;172872]WRITE US OFF AT YOUR OWN RISK! :D

GAME ON!!![/QUOTE]

Lots of people must have written off MU - they are stupid to even think in that manner. The blood is still there to fight till the end. MU had to win that game against Arsenal to stay in contention

MU beating Arsenal meant that other teams are also in the rat race. MU is 5th in the EPL and I am sure that just after the Xmas rush, MU will be either 1st or 2nd in the EPL

BRING IT ON!!!!

sd_steve 2013-11-13 21:40

[QUOTE=Flynn;173241]Lots of people must have written off MU - they are stupid to even think in that manner. The blood is still there to fight till the end. MU had to win that game against Arsenal to stay in contention

MU beating Arsenal meant that other teams are also in the rat race. MU is 5th in the EPL and I am sure that just after the Xmas rush, MU will be either 1st or 2nd in the EPL

BRING IT ON!!!![/QUOTE]

Cardiff 2 - 0 United

Tulani 2013-11-24 20:25

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Flynn 2013-11-25 11:31

[QUOTE=Tulani;174041][IMG]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/25/utyhasus.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

Brilliant:D

MC really did a number on Spurs - 6 nil thrashing

Chelsea & Arsenal won their respective games

Liverpool was lucky to draw that games against Everton

MU could have snitched at the very end. I don't know what Rooney was thinking by wanting to pass the ball to Welbeck and on that note - Rooney was lucky to have got just a yellow card after he booted a Cardiff player. I will take the 2-2 draw though because MU never play that well to begin with

beetle bailey 2013-11-25 12:50

From the brief glimpse that I got of the rooney incident I'm inclined to agree that he was very lucky to escape with only a yellow card. Great point obtained by united though. It's not every side that can come away with a point away from home at Cardiff City.:rolleyes:

Performance of the week I think went to Manchester City who completely outplayed Spurs in all aspects of the game. To think that Spurs spent close on one hundred thousand pounds on new players at the start of the season and they put up a performance like that. :eek: Must admit though that perhaps I'm being a bit harsh on Spurs as I never watched most of the game.

Liverpool once again had Mignolet, our keeper, to thank for the point we gained at Everton. Would have been happier with all three points, obviously, but quite content to come away with the draw. At the end of the day I think a draw was a fair reflection of the game. Could have been a different result had Allen scored into what was just about an empty net and would have given Liverpool a 3 - 1 lead. Instead he missed the goals completely. Shocking miss and one that Suarez's facial expression said it all.

Cream of the sides slowly coming to the top with Arsenal looking good at the moment. However, my money is still on Manchester City to finish top come the end of the season.

Sandtonman 2013-11-25 14:20

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;174096]........Arsenal looking good at the moment. However, my money is still on Manchester City to finish top come the end of the season.[/QUOTE]

hi beetle, I've been thinking for a while that M City will be the team to beat this season; now I'm sure of it. There are NO easy matches in the premier league; even Crystal palace can sometime surprise us! So just need to keep on winning games one-at-a-time!
Cheers, K.

Flynn 2013-11-25 16:17

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;174096]Liverpool once again had Mignolet, our keeper, to thank for the point we gained at Everton[/QUOTE]

A great signing by Liverpool - as long as he does not get injured or suspended, Liverpool has a good crack at the EPL this season

The December rush of games is coming soon and every year, that tells the story of which team might go on to win the EPL season. This season one does not know really - maybe we all have to wait until the end of January to see how this season will probably end

Tulani 2013-11-30 18:57

Arsenal.......unstoppable
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Sandtonman 2013-11-30 21:50

[QUOTE=Tulani;174553]Arsenal.......unstoppable
[IMG]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/01/me9enave.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

I can handle some of that!
Aaron Ramsey scoring two great goals and not celebrating giving his old team a blood nose! Class!
Cheers, K.

Tulani 2013-12-01 21:27

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glynd 2013-12-02 09:42

incessant promotions spoil viewing
 
No idea where to complain about this, would someone redirect me please?

The issue I want to moan about is all the promotions appearing at the bottom of the screen during matches. They distract from the viewing and are unnecessary. We pay enough as it is and are being hounded by adverts all the time. Supersport needs that we are the customers and should be listened to.

What do all think, or am I being picky?

Cheers
Glyn
:mad:

Sandtonman 2013-12-02 10:20

[QUOTE=glynd;174598]No idea where to complain about this, would someone redirect me please?

....all the promotions appearing at the bottom of the screen during matches. They distract from the viewing and are unnecessary. We pay enough as it is and are being hounded by adverts all the time. ...... [/QUOTE]

Hi Glyn,

you can create a new thread to discuss this in the SS section.

[URL]http://forum.dstv.com/forumdisplay.php?f=9[/URL]

But my pennyworth says that MC generates a [B][SIZE=4]very[/SIZE][/B] significant part of its revenue through advertising and needs to get the sponsors' messages in our faces.

As many of us record the programmes and watch them later (or just delayed by around 15 minutes), we are able to spin on through the normal advert breaks. So the in-programme adverts are pretty much all that is left for MC to ensure we get the sponsors' messages.

I'd rather have the in match adverts than having MC disable the ability to fast forward and skip past regular advert breaks. This is technically possible and would be a real nightmare.

MC does listen and modify the adverts is they are too intrusive; the flashing MTN advert was quickly removed when we complained.

Cheers, K.

beetle bailey 2013-12-02 12:10

[QUOTE=Tulani;174569]traumatic weekend for Beetle[/QUOTE]

Very true both the comment and the picture. Game I really thought we would be capable of winning only to be outmuscled and bullied off the ball on numerous occasions. Haven't yet looked at the Liverpoolrsa website for the comments from the Liverpool supporters but I can imagine that they too won't be too happy with this result.

Hull, for their part, played to a game plan which was to close Liverpool down quickly and be physical in the tackle. Not dirty, just hard.

Overall Hull deserved the victory, in my opinion, although the scoreline of 3 - 1 maybe flatters them a little bit.

Arsenal still going well as are Manchester City. Chelsea picked up a good three points while once high riding manchester united could only manage a draw against Spurs and are falling further behind the front runners. Will need a pretty good comeback from them to challenge for the title.

Flynn 2013-12-02 15:48

BB - Liverpool seem to have fell off the bus:D Hull deserved the win

MU - Well I guess anything is expected of MU this season, I would have settled for a draw, I think it is a fair result. Yes people can complain about the penalty and also look very closely to Spurs free kick that finished off as goal no.1

Arsenal is dominating this season - they still have to play the big guns and that is where the point gap will close in

MC - damn these guys love to score goals

Chelsea - Southampton stretched Chelsea in the first half but they should have scored more goals. A 13.72 second goal, wow that was fast - I really expected an upset but Murinho gave his boys a good talk half time and that was the end of Southampton

To me, the EPL is still wide opened - hopefully we will get to see more drama as the midweek games peak during the December period

beetle bailey 2013-12-02 16:26

My first impression was that the united penalty shouldn't have been given. However, after viewing it a second time I changed my mind and thought that the referee made the correct decision. So no problem with the penalty from my side.

Arsenal have a very heavy schedule coming up this month. If I'm not mistaken they have to play Manchester City, Everton, Chelsea and I think one or two other tough games. Including Napoli in the Champions League. Won't be easy for them but they have a pretty decent squad available to them with some players also coming back from injury.

Fight for fourth spot is the interesting one with anyone of about six or so sides currently in the running. Should be a very competitive month of football in December when the games come quick and fast after one another.

Sandtonman 2013-12-02 16:29

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;174669] Arsenal have a very heavy schedule coming up this month. If I'm not mistaken they have to play Manchester City, Everton, Chelsea and I think one or two other tough games. Including Napoli in the Champions League. Won't be easy for them but they have a pretty decent squad available to them with some players also coming back from injury. [/QUOTE]

Every game is a tough game at this level, Beetle; so, one game at a time. Cheers, K.

Tulani 2013-12-02 19:44

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Flynn 2013-12-03 14:36

[QUOTE=Sandtonman;174670]Every game is a tough game at this level, Beetle; so, one game at a time. Cheers, K.[/QUOTE]

This is where SAF was at his brilliant best - he rotated his squad well over the busy period thus he always had the best on the pitch at any given time

Tulani 2013-12-04 23:53

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beetle bailey 2013-12-05 09:49

Still think manchester united can win the league?

Watched the Liverpool game and when it ended I immediately switched over to the united versus Everton game. Only saw about the last minute of what was then injury time play but was shocked at how the united supporters had left the stadium. This when the team possibly needed their support. Ground was half empty. However, I do believe they had only just started to leave. Would still have thought that they'd have stayed to the end. Like true supporters should have.

Suarez was brilliant against Norwich and scored four very good goals. All class efforts. However, as much as I thought the scoreline flattered Hull when they beat us 3-1 over the weekend so I thought that the 5-1 victory flattered us. We deserved the victory but it was only thanks to Suarez's finishing that the margin was so great.

Other results all went pretty much to form I think. Chelsea, Manchester City, Arsenal all picking up victories.

Toto 2013-12-05 10:37

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;174887]Still think manchester united can win the league?
[/QUOTE]

We just need one signing @ ManUtd this January window. And things will be fine. Anyone wants to guess who the signing is?

Sandtonman 2013-12-05 11:00

Manager? (eek!)

Cheers, K. Sent from my S3 with Tapatalk

Flynn 2013-12-05 14:21

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;174887]Still think manchester united can win the league?[/QUOTE]

MU has played catch up before however if they play the way that they are playing, fighting for 4th place will be a mission.

MU didn't play that bad last night but they lost which makes it even more difficult to catch up with the pace setters

Wow - Suarez's is really doing well at Liverpool, damn he scored some good goals. At the rate he is going, he will win the golden boot

Tulani 2013-12-07 16:43

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KennethM 2013-12-07 19:03

Seems the Hammers got hammered at Anfield. Go Liverpool

beetle bailey 2013-12-07 19:28

Couple of surprise results today. Newcastle beating manchester united 1-0 at old trafford. Southampton drawing with Manchester City and one of the biggest surprises being Stoke beating Chelsea. Well done Stoke.

Liverpool beat West Ham by 4 - 1 but again I wasn't too impressed with the way we, at times, gave the ball away. One day those sloppy passes and errors will cost us. Not sure but I think they've classed three of the five goals scored as own goals. One for West Ham and two for Liverpool.

Flying high at the moment and sitting in second spot. Doubt we'll finish there but we sure as hell stand a better chance at the moment than some other team I can mention. :D

united supporters were constantly enquiring about when was Rodgers going to be removed because Liverpool weren't doing that well. Now I can ask the same about moyes:)

beetle bailey 2013-12-09 11:17

united supporters once again conspicuous by their absence? :rolleyes:

Toto 2013-12-09 11:29

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;175221]united supporters once again conspicuous by their absence? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Debating Moyes's future privately. Give us time...

Flynn 2013-12-09 11:49

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;175109]Couple of surprise results today. Newcastle beating manchester united 1-0 at old trafford[/QUOTE]

Surprise, not really BB because at the rate MU is playing these days, we just like appearing for these games and the outcome is becoming like a norm, either draw or loss - very seldom win but we will hang in there I guess. 13 points adrift from the leaders, anything is still possible if MU play properly and starting winning games

Well done BB & Steve - Liverpool recent results is really making you guys chirp a lot:D

The surprised result of the weekend is the Chelsea loss looking at how they have been playing recently

beetle bailey 2013-12-09 14:30

It's the games coming up for the rest of the month that's going to be the interesting ones. Lots of the "so called" top sides will be playing against each other if I'm not mistaken. Know that Liverpool's next four games are against Spurs, Cardiff, Manchester City and Chelsea. Hopefully we can win at least two of these, Spurs and Cardiff. But not holding out much hope against Manchester City and Chelsea. Even the Spurs and Cardiff games won't be any sort of walk over. Could see us losing all four.

manchester united on the other hand have an easy end to the year and should be able to pick up quite a few points. If not maximum.

Arsenal have a couple of tough games as well.

beetle bailey 2013-12-09 14:49

Arsenal fixtures:

14 Dec Man City (a)
23 Dec Chelsea (h)
26 Dec West Ham (a)
29 Dec Newcastle (a)

Chelsea fixtures:

14 Dec Crystal Palace (h)
23 Dec Arsenal (a)
26 Dec Swansea (h)
29 Dec Liverpool (h)

Manchester City fixtures:

14 Dec Arsenal (h)
21 Dec Fulham (a)
26 Dec Liverpool (h)
28 Dec Crystal Palace (h)

manchester united fixtures:

15 Dec Aston Villa (a)
21 Dec West Ham (h)
26 Dec Hull (a)
28 Dec Norwich (a)

Liverpool fixtures:

15 Dec Spurs (a)
21 Dec Cardiff (h)
26 Dec Manchester City (a)
29 Dec Chelsea (a)

Everton fixtures:

14 Dec Fulham (h)
22 Dec Swansea (a)
26 Dec Sunderland (h)
29 Dec Southampton (h)

As can be seen from the above united have, on paper, the easiest run in to the new year and should be able to pick up maximum points. Everton possibly as well but the other sides don't have it quite as easy.

neoassasin 2013-12-09 16:00

I'm an Arsenal supporter and watching Sunday's game the commentator said this time last season Arsenal were 12 points behind Man Utd and now, during the game, United are 12 points behind Arsenal. Last season everyone said Arsenal wouldn't make top four but yet some people still say Man Utd can win the league. Arsenal needed the best form in the premier league for the second half of the season to finish fourth, so I don't know how United can still win the league.

sd_steve 2013-12-09 16:33

Some Liverpool and Arsenal supporters have come out of the woodwork of late...

Toto 2013-12-09 16:36

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;175263]

manchester united on the other hand have an easy end to the year and should be able to pick up quite a few points. If not maximum.

[/QUOTE]

Which Man U are you referring to BB? Moyes's or Fergie's? :eek:

KennethM 2013-12-09 17:22

Don't worry Man U fans, it's character building to eat humble pie on occasion. As a Liverpool supporter I've had to do that often enough since the glory days of the 80s.

beetle bailey 2013-12-09 21:43

[QUOTE=KennethM;175291]Don't worry Man U fans, it's character building to eat humble pie on occasion. As a Liverpool supporter I've had to do that often enough since the glory days of the 80s.[/QUOTE]

True, but at least we've stayed with our side through the bad days. Not to say that the real good days are back but at least there are signs of improvement. Even managed to beat our old enemy this season. manchester united. Oh wait, that's not saying much now is it? Everyone's beating them.

Toto, surely even with moyes at the helm united should be expected to win most of those games?

Toto 2013-12-10 10:26

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;175316]
Toto, surely even with moyes at the helm united should be expected to win most of those games?[/QUOTE]

BB, should be expected yes but we expected them to pickup 6 points last week @ Old Trafford yet they picked none. We might as well lower our expectations. Something is clearly wrong. I think we need to let a lot of players go and start a new generation. I don't think our current squad respects the manager anywhere near the level they respected Fergie and it's showing on the pitch.

beetle bailey 2013-12-10 16:38

Lots of football pundits have been bemoaning the fact that united lack the skills in the midfield. Something which they say has been apparent for ages. Likewise the back four who also seem to be aging and falling apart. This not my saying so but others who are more knowledgeable in the game than I am.

If this is in fact correct then who is really to blame for the poor performances this season? moyes who's inherited an old side or ferguson for letting it get to this stage? Or is the blame purely at the feet of moyes?

Tulani 2013-12-10 17:23

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;175441]Lots of football pundits have been bemoaning the fact that united lack the skills in the midfield. Something which they say has been apparent for ages. Likewise the back four who also seem to be aging and falling apart. This not my saying so but others who are more knowledgeable in the game than I am.

If this is in fact correct then who is really to blame for the poor performances this season? moyes who's inherited an old side or ferguson for letting it get to this stage? Or is the blame purely at the feet of moyes?[/QUOTE]

I blame Ferguson. He should not have hand picked his successor.

beetle bailey 2013-12-10 19:14

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Sorry I tried to paste the picture itself but somehow failed to do so. However SOME of you may enjoy taking the trouble to click on the link and find out what the photo is all about. ;):rolleyes:

beetle bailey 2013-12-10 19:17

[QUOTE=Tulani;175444]I blame Ferguson. He should not have hand picked his successor.[/QUOTE]

Well he hand picked the referees for his games as well as controlled the FA so why shouldn't he have been allowed to fuel his ego and pick his successor? Think that as good a manager as he may have been, he was allowed too much control at the club. Or so it would seem.

Tulani 2013-12-15 19:14

bad boy Swarez is Captain today. Doing well

beetle bailey 2013-12-16 10:19

[QUOTE=Tulani;175765]bad boy Swarez is Captain today. Doing well[/QUOTE]

Apparently he's even doing better than the whole of the Spurs team has managed so far this season with his 17 goals being more than they have managed together. :)

Anyone who has been watching the Liverpool games would no doubt have noticed a changed Suarez this season. So far anyway. Seems to be mainly concentrating on his football and not so much on the histrionics. Seems to be paying off for him as his goalscoring indicates.

What a pleasant surprise(?) yesterdays result over Spurs was. Winning 5 - 0 far exceeded any expectations that I had. In fact if it wasn't for some atrocious finishing the score could very easily have been even more. Good game played by Liverpool and must rank as one of their best performances so far this season. AVB under a lot of pressure to get things right at Spurs or he could be facing the chop. If he hasn't already got it.

Side to beat are still Manchester City. They, for most of the game, outplayed Arsenal and were deserved winners of this game. Although the scoreline for two of the top sides is rather alarming. One would have thought that the defenders should have kept the scoring down to a minimum. But an entertaining game to watch.

united, grrrrrr!!, got back onto winning ways and are slowly making a come back and climbing up the log. However, I still cannot see them winning the league. May perhaps be able to sneak into one of the top four positions but at this stage, with Everton also going well, it's not going to be easy.

sd_steve 2013-12-16 12:20

Yeah excellent work by Liverpool, I think Paulinho challenge deserved a yellow not a red.
Nonetheless, there's an energy in the side and I feel the reason why we are so solid is the hard work of Henderson who I think has improved tremendously.

YNWA

Tulani 2013-12-16 12:35

And he is slowly becoming a favorite of the English media which at one point wanted to crucify him. #Suarez

beetle bailey 2013-12-16 19:45

sd_steve, I too thought it was a harsh decision giving Paulinho a straight red but when I saw the replay you can clearly see him moving his studs into Suarez's chest. So, I have no sympathy for him seeing the red card. Was a deliberate kick and a deserved red card.

Going to be interesting to see who takes over at Spurs? Rather surprised at the way they've gone recently. At the start of the season, with the same manager, they were doing pretty well. Now they've gone downhill quite badly and their defence is conceding too many goals. Surely, losing Vertonghan at centre back cannot be the sole reason for this?

Flynn 2013-12-17 10:01

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;175805]Going to be interesting to see who takes over at Spurs? [/QUOTE]

Probably Harry Redknapp:D

Chris Hanson 2013-12-17 16:50

Really congested at the top of the table. There's the old theory that whoever's top of the end of the year generally goes onto the title, so it's anyones bet right now. Somehow I have a feeling that there won't be a clear winner until the last game of the season. There have been some really unpredictable thrashings of top teams by other top teams. (Heehee, we even managed to beat Chealse last week)

Regarding Spurs, I think they're regreting letting Bale go. If you look at the log, they are the only team in the top half to have a negative goal difference, and they've netted less than half the goals than the top 4. (Even West Brom have scored more) Will be interesting to see who they appoint to take over from AVB, Flynn's prediction might not be such a long shot :D

Toto 2013-12-19 11:13

Maybe just maybe, the corner has finally been turned. I'm sensing that this Christmas fixture list is MAKE or BREAK for United. 4 shall we say favourable fixtures West Ham, Hull, Norwich and Spurs while the other big 4 will play one another once or twice. Come Jan the 2nd, we might be right back in the mix. I dare say we shall bag 10 or more points in the next 4 fixtures!

beetle bailey 2013-12-20 13:43

[QUOTE=Toto;176036]Maybe just maybe, the corner has finally been turned. I'm sensing that this Christmas fixture list is MAKE or BREAK for United. 4 shall we say favourable fixtures West Ham, Hull, Norwich and Spurs while the other big 4 will play one another once or twice. Come Jan the 2nd, we might be right back in the mix. I dare say we shall bag 10 or more points in the next 4 fixtures![/QUOTE]

Will be very surprised if united don't bag just about maximum points from their next four fixtures. Anything less and there could perhaps be a big inquest as to whether moyes keeps his job or not. But should united collect those points, as most of us expect them to, then yes, they will be right back in the mix. Still cannot see them winning the league though.

Chris Hanson 2013-12-20 14:17

Moyes was complaining about how tough their season opening fixtures were, I wonder if he has anything to say about the rather cushy looking festive season ahead :D

beetle bailey 2013-12-23 11:41

united got a win so moyes won't be saying much. Like most of the others on this thread. Was lots of banter and comments at the beginning of the season and over the past few seasons but this year things have been fairly slow. This could be because people have other things on their minds or are on holiday at this time of the year.

Liverpool supporters getting nosebleeds because they not used to their, our, side being so high on the league table at this time of the year. Another fine FIRST HALF performance by them with Suarez once again finding the net. He's really having a great season. So far.

As we approach the end of the year, and the end of the first round fixtures, most of the usual suspects expected to win the league are there or thereabouts with only a couple of points separating them. Sides that are currently doing well and perhaps exceeding expectations are Liverpool, Newcastle United and Everton. At the beginning of the season a I laughed at Martinez and though he was quite mad to suggest that Everton were going to mount a challenge for a Champions League spot. Now I'm no longer so sure that he won't manage it. Still doubt it though but not as strongly as at the time when he made the comment.

Looking forward to tonight's game when Chelsea and Arsenal clash. Should be a good game to watch. Not sure who I'd like to win from a Liverpool perspective but if pushed then I think I'd like an Arsenal victory. Mainly because I'm no fan of "the happy one".

sd_steve 2013-12-24 04:28

Bottomline is we are number 1.
We will win the Premier League if we win the rest of our games, that is a fact...provided our goal difference remains higher than the rest.

beetle bailey 2013-12-24 09:39

[QUOTE=sd_steve;176265]Bottomline is we are number 1.
We will win the Premier League if we win the rest of our games, that is a fact...provided our goal difference remains higher than the rest.[/QUOTE]

Although I'm very happy with our position at the moment I feel the next two games will give a better idea as to our league winning credentials. If we can win even one of these two games, against Manchester City and Chelsea then we would have done very well so far and could perhaps be title contenders. For now I'm just hoping for a top four finish.

Suarez has been in sublime form since he started playing but can he keep on going like this? Somehow I doubt it. Then the other players will have to come to the party. Sturridge perhaps?

Season is only halfway through, good as, and there are still a lot of games to go. Also some sides will be strengthening their teams during the January transfer window so who knows what will happen thereafter. Hopefully we, Liverpool, will do likewise.

sd_steve - perhaps we should rename this English Premier League thread to something more like .... Liverpool and 18 other teams Supporters Club discussions. As there still seems to be a deafening silence from a certain quarter? ;) Odd post or two I'll admit but nothing like we had last year. Any ideas why this should be so?

beetle bailey 2013-12-26 09:41

sd_steve, you may be interested in the following article which I got off the local Liverpool Supporters Club website. ([url]www.liverpoolrsa.co.za[/url]) Others may perhaps also find it interesting if for no other reason than to see just how ridiculous wages and transfer fees have become. However, if Gareth Bale could be valued so highly then I am in full agreement with the value placed on Suarez based on his present form. Anyway here's the article but let me add that I cannot vouch in any way as to the accuracy of the contents.


Luis Suarez's Liverpool release clause is a staggering £100million - or £130million for a Premier League club
Dec 25, 2013 22:30 By Alan Nixon

Spanish giants Real Madrid - the only likely movers for Suarez in the next few years - would have to top the sum they paid for Gareth Bale

Luis Suarez has two staggering price tag clauses in his new £10million-a-year Liverpool contract.

Super striker Suarez will cost a world record £100m if a foreign club comes in for him.

And the fee is an even bigger £130m if a Premier League rival tries to tempt him from the Kop.

Those two numbers should price Suarez out of a move from Anfield or even stop a repeat of the transfer talk last summer.

Top scorer Suarez had a £40m price tag in his previous deal although that did not prove any use when Arsenal came calling - and offered £1 more.

Suarez and his advisers wanted a ‘sale’ fee inserted in his new bumper five-year contract but the numbers are so high that they virtually take him off the market.

Spanish giants Real Madrid - the only likely movers for Suarez in the next few years - would have to top the sum they paid for Gareth Bale.

That transfer could happen down the line, but if it does Liverpool will collect even more than Tottenham did.

But the two-tier valuation means that Suarez is unlikely to ever be sold to an English club directly from Liverpool.

That is a weight off the minds of the fans who have backed Suarez despite his problems earlier in the year.

The figures make sound financial sense to all parties and - along with his pay hike - it is a package that has everyone happy.

Flynn 2013-12-27 08:46

[QUOTE=sd_steve;176265]Bottomline is we are number 1[/QUOTE]

Oops, you Liverpool supporters don't know how to keep you'll mouths quiet hey:D You'll were in 1st position at the start of Boxing Day and after MC beat you'll, you'll are now 4th - damn I like to hear the comments:)

MU came back from a 2-0 down to win the game 3-2. A win is a win, no matter how it comes

Arsenal won

Chelsea won

Oh, did I say that Liverpool LOST

Match of the weekend - Chelsea vs Liverpool

beetle bailey 2013-12-27 10:20

It will take a lot to keep us Liverpool supporters quiet. We may have lost against Manchester City but they were the ones hoofing the ball upfield and simply trying to clear their lines in order to hold onto their lead. Won't go into some of the referee's decisions especially the goal that was ruled out for offside. Diabolical decision. Overall a disappointing result but, for me anyway, we did much better than I was expecting. If we'd taken our chances we could perhaps even have won. Good performance and nothing to be ashamed of.

Top of the league is starting to take shape with only perhaps manchester united going to join these top four sides come the end of the season. Still fancy Manchester City for the title. Lots could depend on what happens with the other sides during the transfer window. Positions amongst these top four sides will continue to change as there are only a couple of points between them.

Whoop whoop united won and the supporters are once again climbing out from under their blankets to start chirping! :D They've mostly been very quiet this season in comparison to other seasons. :rolleyes:

Tulani 2013-12-29 19:59

From first to fifth.
Sorry we had to put Liverpool to the sword. #Chelsea

beetle bailey 2013-12-29 20:29

[QUOTE=Tulani;176542]From first to fifth.
Sorry we had to put Liverpool to the sword. #Chelsea[/QUOTE]

And with that our friendship comes to an end!!!!! :p

No, good first half performance by Chelsea which went to show how much Liverpool still need to do. Chelsea players all seemed to have much more time on the ball, challenged better and made far fewer mistakes. Liverpool on the other hand struggled just to hold onto the ball.

Second half was an improvement for Liverpool but when it came time to make changes we lacked the quality from the bench. Unlike Chelsea and Manchester City in our last game. However I'm not too disappointed as we are still in with a shout for a top four spot which is all I'm hoping for. Also perhaps these last two losses will cause the manager and owner to take a hard look at the squad we have and try to improve on it in January. Smith??? Who the heck is this bloke whom I've never heard of before. Wouldn't go so far as to say he was useless but definitely isn't the type of player who is going to improve our starting eleven. Not from what I saw today anyway.

The top six or so sides are so close together that even if one side draws they could find themselves dropping a couple of positions. At least it's interesting at the top. For now!

Tulani 2013-12-29 20:32

After Sir Alex Ferguson's retirement Howard Webb might have joined Chelsea!

beetle bailey 2013-12-29 21:44

[QUOTE=Tulani;176544]After Sir Alex Ferguson's retirement Howard Webb might have joined Chelsea![/QUOTE]

:D:D:D Strange that even my wife, who doesn't follow the football all that much, said that it seems as if the referees don't like Liverpool. :)

But the odd bad refereeing decision aside I didn't think that Liverpool did enough to warrant getting a point out of the game. Obviously I was hoping for something but we were, on the day, beaten by the better team. So well done Chelsea.

Flynn 2014-01-02 08:08

[QUOTE=Tulani;176544]After Sir Alex Ferguson's retirement Howard Webb might have joined Chelsea![/QUOTE]

Yeah it seems that way, yesterday Howard Webb never gave MU anything but this is typical MU this season, just hanging on to dear life and trying to win a game or 2. Not a good start to the New Year for MU, they lost 2-1 at home to Spurs, although MU had the lion's share of the possession, MU players could not put the ball in the back of the net to make the difference

11 points adrift from the leaders after yesterday's loss, I cannot see MU challenging for the title or top 4 but anything can happen in football. MU is not playing consistent football and therefore it is so hard to predict where they will finish off in the EPL this season

beetle bailey 2014-01-02 12:15

Of those outside of the top four at the moment I still think that manchester united are the side to watch. Cannot see them winning the league but could be a top four contender. Again all depends on what signings the sides make in January.

Looks like Marino has already made a giant leap into the transfer market and signed Howard Webb from manchester united. Could this be the start of an exodus of united players who may be unhappy under moyes? Time will tell. :D

However, even Liverpool supporters are saying that poor united were unlucky with some of the referee's decisions yesterday. Welcome to the club as most sides have had to suffer these decisions when playing united. As my son said, "what goes round comes round". Get used to it.

Arsenal maintain top spot but they left it very late before netting twice with only a few minutes left to play. Likewise Everton who scored an injury time penalty to come away with a draw against Stoke City.

Sandtonman 2014-01-02 12:30

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;176689]
......Arsenal maintain top spot but they left if very late before netting twice with only a few minutes left to play......[/QUOTE]

Yip, BB; we are showing a dogged resilience that was lacking in previous seasons. 2-nil is 2-nil, however late. I think that Wenger may go for a big striker signing this month; let's see.

But, as I've said all season, Man City is the real contender. They are going to be very tough indeed to beat.

Cheers, K.

beetle bailey 2014-01-04 10:01

Just an article that may be of some interest. The tables at the end of the article also make for an interesting read.

Sepp Blatter: Fifa president wants time penalty for diving in football

Fifa president Sepp Blatter has proposed the use of a time penalty as a deterrent to diving in football.
Blatter feels players who get treatment but are not badly injured should have to wait longer before rejoining play.
"I find it deeply irritating, when the half-dead player comes back to life as soon as they have left the pitch," said Blatter, 77, in a weekly Fifa column.

"The referee can make the player wait until the numerical disadvantage has had an effect on the game."
Blatter, the head of world football's governing body, added: "In practical terms, this is a time penalty and it could cause play-actors to rethink.
"The touchline appears to have acquired powers of revival which even leading medical specialists cannot explain."
Former Premier League referee Dermot Gallagher agrees simulation is an issue in the game, but feels penalising players in Blatter's proposed way may not be feasible.
"You're going to need a very, very brave referee to say a players wasn't really injured, I'm not sure it's a real solution," said Gallagher.
Blatter's comments come two days after Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho criticised one of his own players, Oscar, for diving in their victory at Southampton.
Mourinho also urged referees to "kill the situation" after his Brazilian attacker was cautioned for appearing to dive in the the area after rounding Southampton goalkeeper Kelvin Davis.
Blatter is intent on ridding the game of simulation, which has prompted 13 yellow cards in the Premier League this season.
"Even though simulation is incredibly unfair and looks preposterous when viewed in a replay, some people regard it as smart or in the worst case as a harmless misdemeanour," added Blatter, who has been re-elected three times since becoming Fifa president in 1998.
"The longest breaks in the game nowadays are almost exclusively the result of dives, simulation and play-acting to feign injury.
"This kind of thing is treated with scorn in other sporting disciplines but it has become a normal and accepted part of football nowadays."

Manchester United attacker Adnan Januzaj, 18, has received three of his five yellow cards this season for simulation.
United fanzine Red Issue, via its Twitter account, called on manager David Moyes to speak to the youngster as well as Ashley Young, who has been booked for diving this season.
Fifa's vice-president Jim Boyce has previously proposed the use of video evidence to help take retrospective action against divers, a move which Gallagher would still welcome.
"I think most people in this country would adhere to retrospective action," added Gallagher, who was a Fifa listed referee for eight years.
"For me, I think an ex-referee, an ex-manager and an ex-member of PFA could look at video evidence and if all three agree on a dive, it's a three match ban."
As part of his proposals to clamp down on cheating within the game, Blatter emphasised Fifa's stance on whether the ball should be put out of play if a player is injured.
"The ball is in the referees' court," added Blatter.
"The instructions are now clear on this matter: if a player is lying on the floor, the opposing team are not required to put the ball into touch.
"The referee should only intervene if he believes a serious injury has occurred."

Premier League bookings for simulation (from August 2008)
Gareth Bale - 7
Fernando Torres - 3
Adnan Januzaj - 3
Liam Lawrence - 2
David Bentley - 2
Ashley Young - 2
Luis Suarez - 2
Daniel Sturridge - 2
Javier Hernandez - 2
Oscar - 2
Andy Carroll - 2
Emmanuel Eboue - 2
Source: Opta

Most bookings for simulation by club (since August 2008)
Tottenham - 13
Chelsea - 12
Manchester United - 12
Arsenal - 8
Liverpool - 8
Source: Opta

Tulani 2014-01-04 10:05

I think controversies in soccer will never be contained in totality

beetle bailey 2014-01-05 22:18

Not too long ago us Liverpool supporters were being questioned about how long our owners were going to put up with Rodgers as our manager. :( However, he seems to have put the doubters, both Liverpool supporters and others in their place, and now I ask the same question of the manchester united manager :D How much longer you going to put up with him?:rolleyes:

But moyes aside I think the united supporters watching the FA Cup game against Swansea need to take a good hard look at themselves, perhaps others too, and decide if they really are united supporters. Before the final whistle went the ground was all but empty. What kind of support is that for your team!

Thankfully these supporters don't have "You'll Never Walk Alone" as their theme song. :D

Tulani 2014-01-05 23:22

Please keep Moyes at united. We need him to kill the team. Then after he can be fired.

Flynn 2014-01-06 07:54

The future looks bleak for Moyes at MU - supporters are calling for his head, the lust for winning games is all gone at MU. MU have the players to succeed however the way Moyes want the players to play the game is the problem. MU relax on the ball to much - MU must start playing at a more attacking pace

Toto 2014-01-06 08:25

[QUOTE=Flynn;176855] MU have the players to succeed [/QUOTE]

I totally disagree Flynn. Can you name 5 world-class players in our squad now?

beetle bailey 2014-01-06 10:15

[QUOTE=Toto;176867]I totally disagree Flynn. Can you name 5 world-class players in our squad now?[/QUOTE]

I know I've been having a go at united and their supporters recently but don't think they are playing all that badly at the moment. With looney and rvp being injured they have lost a lot of their firepower and the creativity that looney brings to the side. This new youngster who's name I've forgotten isn't too bad either. As we've stated before a lot could depend on who united manage to bring into the squad during the January transfer window.

Fellaini as one of your transfers during the earlier transfer window hasn't been successful. Wasn't he the only one signed then? Or was the youngster mentioned earlier also signed at this time?

Don't get me wrong I'm still highly delighted at the problems being experienced at united but not entirely writing them off yet. Unlike their supporters at old toilet seem to be doing. Won't win the league but top four finish still possible.

Allardyce or moyes? Which of the two will be the first to get fired should results not improve?

beetle bailey 2014-01-06 10:17

[QUOTE=Toto;176867]I totally disagree Flynn. Can you name 5 world-class players in our squad now?[/QUOTE]

But isn't this the same squad, just about, that won the league last season and which was being heralded as world beaters by some? Even if it may have been tongue in cheek.

Chris Hanson 2014-01-06 16:55

Long before the season kicked off, there was a lot of talk on this forum about the impact all these managerial changes were going to have. Quite prophetic :D Matrinez has taken Everton from being also rans for the last few seaons (under you know who) to European contenders. And that's without Fellaini. Moyes has taken a European contender and turned them into also rans. Rodgers is doing a great job at Anfield now that he's really settled in. The respective teams aren't that much changed from last season in terms of squads. Sherwood seems to be turning Spurs in the right direction as well.
I doubt MU will be sacking Moyes any time soon, but I think it shows he's way out of his depth at the moment. Maybe he's just not the tactician SAF thought he was.

Tulani 2014-01-08 06:07

Arsene Wenger - Business mind.
Jose Mourinho - Intelligent mind.
Brendan Rodgers - Tactical mind.

David Moyes - Never mind.

beetle bailey 2014-01-08 11:19

[QUOTE=Tulani;177097]Arsene Wenger - Business mind.
Jose Mourinho - Intelligent mind.
Brendan Rodgers - Tactical mind.

David Moyes - Never mind.[/QUOTE]

Ha ha ha! :D Cannot be too good being a manchester united fan these days. Most of the jokes around the English Premier League are centred on them and their manager. I'm almost willing to bet that if moyes was offered the opportunity of going back to Everton right now, that he'd take it. His reputation as a manager has taken a severe beating while he's been at united. However, with Everton doing as well as they are under their new manager I very much doubt that they'd want him back.

Saw an interview with moyes on the tv the other day and although I cannot remember what was said he definitely looked like someone who was clutching at straws saying a lot of rubbish. My wife also noticed this.

But never mind there's always the major Capital Cup for united to play for. They'll have to overcome a 2 - 1 deficit to Sunderland though in order to progress to the final. Awhile ago I would have said, "no problem" but now I'm not so sure anymore. Still fancy they'll manage it though.

Flynn 2014-01-08 12:37

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;177144]But never mind there's always the major Capital Cup for united to play for. They'll have to overcome a 2 - 1 deficit to Sunderland though in order to progress to the final. Awhile ago I would have said, "no problem" but now I'm not so sure anymore. Still fancy they'll manage it though.[/QUOTE]

I cannot comment on the game because I never watch it - way too late. In this day and age, watching a MU game is an insult to the most famous club in the world. Not sure what is happening at boardroom level but this losing of games is getting way out of hand now

Moyes apparantly got 200 million pounds to beef up his squad in the January transfer window - I just hope that he brings the right players in and Moyes, please do not bring in more Everton players:D

I am hopefull that MU will turnaround that 2-1 deficit to go into the final and probably win the Capital One Cup, this together with MU finishing in the top 4 will definitely secure Moyes job for next season. Finishing in the top 4 will be difficult but that will also be dependant on the players that Moyes buy at the end of this month

Still and always be a MU supporter

Chris Hanson 2014-01-08 12:40

Moyes seems to point fingers at everyone except himself. At the beginning of the season, he was bemoaning the fixture list, now I see he's saying that MU aren't just playing against other teams but also all the officials as well.

beetle bailey 2014-01-08 13:31

[QUOTE=Flynn;177180]Still and always be a MU supporter[/QUOTE]

That's what I like to hear. Seriously. Stick with your team through the good times as well as the bad. Not referring just to you but to supporters in general.

moyes has been given a lot of money to bring in some new players but is already, perhaps correctly, stating that now isn't when decent players are available. Also, weren't united linked to a couple of players in the last transfer window only for them to turn down the chance of playing for united and going elsewhere? Most of the better players want to play for sides that are competing in the Champions League or will be next year. Can united guarantee that this will be the case for them next year? (Liverpool are in pretty much the same position here but we do SEEM to be on an upward trend while united cannot say the same. At the moment). So think it's going to be difficult to sign quality players.

moyes and latest performances by united haven't exactly been the greatest, lost three games in eight days, which is unheard of for a side with united's pedigree.

Interesting times ahead during this transfer window for lots of clubs. Don't get it right and sides continue struggling and more heads could roll. moyes and Allerdyce (West Ham) being the prime contenders at this time.

Tulani 2014-01-08 14:56

no matter how big the $ purse....who would want to join a team that is on a free fall with a seemingly confused manager?

Orange 2014-01-08 15:38

As an Everton supporter I'm quite delighted with our performance so far this season. There was an instance recently when Baines got injured that highlighted the difference between Martinez and Moyes. Moyes would've moaned like hell about how we were missing a key player, while Martinez said he was actually EXCITED by the prospect of seeing if the replacement could put his hand up and perform (he did). Says quite a bit about the personality of the managers.

Beetle is quite correct. If Moyes wanted to come back, he can go fly a kite. Don't want him. I've even gone so far as to question whether Moyes hasn't in fact been holding us back over the last few years? Maybe he's a seventh place manager?

Look, whoever took over from SAF was always going to battle. That much was a given. But I don't think in a million years anyone thought the United aura would disappear this completely this quickly. If United aren't careful, they're going to be heading DOWN the table, not up. But don't lose heart, even SAF nearly got fired shortly after he took over from Ron Atkinson, and in the end look what he accomplished.

But it disappoints me greatly, even as an opposition supporter, to see the way Old Trafford empties the moment United go behind with less than 10 minutes left on the clock. That's when the team needs its supporters most! It's no surprise United have lost their ability to hit back late. It must be massively deflating to the players to see the lack of support they get when it counts most!

beetle bailey 2014-01-08 18:33

Sorry but this is just too good not to post for your entertainment. Just hope you have a Facebook profile so that you can see it.

[url]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151823151587651[/url]

Flynn 2014-01-09 09:17

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;177250]Sorry but this is just too good not to post for your entertainment. Just hope you have a Facebook profile so that you can see it.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151823151587651[/URL][/QUOTE]

Brilliant BB

Chris Hanson 2014-01-09 14:28

BB, you have just made my day :D "Rooney's Big Spud Head" Priceless !

Tulani 2014-01-09 17:05

I always struggle with the accent :(

Sandtonman 2014-01-09 17:21

[QUOTE=Tulani;177368]I always struggle with the accent :([/QUOTE]

So do most Brits from anywhere South of Birmingham! :)
Cheers, K.

Chris Hanson 2014-01-09 17:28

[QUOTE=Sandtonman;177373]So do most Brits from anywhere South of Birmingham! :)
Cheers, K.[/QUOTE]

And talking lifts :D

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FFRoYhTJQQ[/URL]

Sandtonman 2014-01-10 11:12

LOL
 
[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;177376]And talking lifts :D

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FFRoYhTJQQ[/URL][/QUOTE]

love it Chris! The canned laughter does not do it proper justice.
I laughed out loud (particularly at the D1ck van Dyke quote -- a reference to his simply terrible "English" [B][I]accent[/I][/B] in Mary Poppins.)
Thanks for the Friday morning laugh :) Cheers, K.

Flynn 2014-01-13 10:25

Wow - MU finally manage to win a game after all the loses:)

BB - Sterling, Young, Rooney, Valencia, etc must be fighting for the diving of the season award

beetle bailey 2014-01-13 14:55

[QUOTE=Flynn;177652]Wow - MU finally manage to win a game after all the loses:)

BB - Sterling, Young, Rooney, Valencia, etc must be fighting for the diving of the season award[/QUOTE]

Think there are more contenders trying to make their countries swimming olympic teams in the diving category than just those four.

Unfortunately, it seems like one cannot tackle a player anymore these days without it being deemed to be a foul. Contact was made with Sterling in our game against Stoke but was it enough for a penalty to be awarded? Not in my opinion, yet I have seen free kicks and penalties given for similar tackles.

Another issue that needs to be looked at is the offside rule. Debate will be ongoing as to whether the Newcastle United no goal should have been given as a goal. I'm of the view that the right decision was made by the referee as any player standing where the Newcastle player was standing must surely have been in the keeper's vision. Or the keeper must have been aware that he was there. So to me that's interfering with play. Others will no doubt have a different viewpoint and they could be correct. Something needs to be done to clear this up once and for all so that the players know what's going on. Bring back the old offside rule I say. If a player is standing in an offside position then he gets blown up for offside. Maybe let this apply only if the player is standing anywhere in the "box" otherwise, if outside the box, he only gets blown up for offside should he make an effort to play the ball. At least players will be aware of what's happening around the goal area in regard to someone standing in an offside position.

Chris, sorry about that penalty but being a Liverpool supporter who has seen things go against us on numerous occasions I'm just glad to see that maybe the football gods are now shining on us when it comes to these decisions. And a couple of others such as Skrtel's pulling your man down in the penalty area. Don't shoot me but rather shoot the ref.

Chris Hanson 2014-01-13 15:28

Beetle, no grudges hey :D It was a good game, spoilt by some very dodgy decisions. I think Stoke have a reputation for being a hard team, (not dirty, just hard) so when a player goes down in the Stoke penalty box, chances are they're going to get a penalty awarded. At 2-2, the game could have gone either way, but once the penalty was scored, Stoke were always playing catch-up, and in an attempt to get an equalizer, they left themselve open at the back.

Tulani 2014-01-13 18:32

and for a while we thought goal line tech would lessen controversy in soccer?

beetle bailey 2014-01-13 21:18

[QUOTE=Tulani;177701]and for a while we thought goal line tech would lessen controversy in soccer?[/QUOTE]

As with any sport where humans have to make decisions there will always be some sort of controversy. I'm happy with goal line technology and support this one hundred percent. However, during a game I prefer to let the referee and his linesmen, assistants, control the game to the best of their abilities.

Then what I'd like to see is a panel of experts, or panels of experts, sitting down and reviewing video footage of all games after they have been completed. Irrespective of their findings the score will remain as it was at the final whistle. But any incorrect bookings, or non bookings, would be looked at and the corrective action taken.

Tulani 2014-01-13 21:32

No England based player for World 11. 'best league in the world?' makes one think #Bollon Do r

Tulani 2014-01-13 21:52

or they just dont wanna associate with the English and Africa

Toto 2014-01-14 10:10

One poor 1/2 season from ManU and the haters are making so much noise as though MU were relegated. Let's not forget that it's nearly 24 years counting since L'pool last won the league, 10 years since Arsenal won any kind of silverware and Chelsea and City have had to HEAVILY rely on owners to buy some trophies as of late.

Yes Moyes is struggling big time but Noone is bigger than ManU including Fergie so Man U will pull through eventually. If not this season, definitely next season with or without Moyes.

GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED, GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED,GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED AS THE REDS MARCH ON AND ON (just via a valley right now :D)

Chris Hanson 2014-01-14 11:42

Did anyone else watch the Villa Arsenal game last night ? After a weekend of "soft" decisions from the refs, last nights game was entirely the opposite. Some bone crunching tackles weren't even blown up for a foul, let alone a card. Arsenal's Sagna went down nearly crippled, writhing on the touchline, and the ref let play go on. It seemed like only attempted murder was going to get a booking :D We really do need some kind of consistancy from the refs.

beetle bailey 2014-01-14 19:57

Agree that there were a number of what would previously have been bookable offences which were not penalised by the referee. Also on a couple of occasions a player was down injured and the ref allowed play to continue.

Although there was one pretty serious injury to a Villa player I'm very pleased with the referees letting play continue when a player, in the referee's opinion, isn't all that badly injured. I'm pretty certain we've all seen players go down as if they've been shot, scream on their way down, lie on the ground writhing in agony only to stand up and perhaps make a show of hobbling to the touchline but then making a miraculous recovery and run without any problems from then on.

Football is basically a contact sport so let's stop blowing everytime a player falls to the ground after the faintest of touches.

Tulani 2014-01-17 17:54

Can everyone in the opposition gang with Chelsea this weekend so that we completely obliterate any title hopes for the Red Devils!

Chris Hanson 2014-01-17 18:09

[QUOTE=Tulani;178169]Can everyone in the opposition gang with Chelsea this weekend so that we completely obliterate any title hopes for the Red Devils![/QUOTE]

Tell you what Tulani, I'll support Chelsea this weekend provided you let us beat you next weekend in the FA Cup :D

beetle bailey 2014-01-18 10:23

For us Liverpool supporters, and perhaps Everton supporters as well, it could be a win situation for both of us whoever wins between united and Chelsea. Provided, of course, we win our games.

Perhaps, for me anyway, I'd like a draw. That way we increase our lead on united by two points and close the gap to Chelsea by two points. But, again, this is provided we don't slip up and drop points to Villa. :eek:

beetle bailey 2014-01-19 11:31

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;178187]Perhaps, for me anyway, I'd like a draw. That way we increase our lead on united by two points and close the gap to Chelsea by two points. But, again, this is provided we don't slip up and drop points to Villa. :eek:[/QUOTE]

The unthinkable happened and we, Liverpool, escaped with a draw in our game against Villa. Rodgers got it all wrong with the team set up and went with a side that was far too attacking at the expense of the defence. A defence that for the most part was just about non-existent in the first half. Fortunately, he made the necessary changes for the second half and we looked a bit better for it.

Saurez got us a penalty which Gerrard converted to give us a share of the points at least. However, there was no way that it should have been given as a penalty. A clear dive in my opinion and I'm just hoping that this isn't the start of our seeing the old Suarez again. He's behaviour until now has been pretty good even in the face of some terrible tackles from various defenders.

One of the worst performances by Liverpool so far this season and dropping those two points have just about wrecked any chance, minor as it may have been, or our finishing top of the log. Has also put a huge dent in our chances of finishing in the top four come the end of the season.

Hoping now for a Chelsea, Swansea and West Brom victory in the remaining games for this weekend but cannot see this materializing. Maybe the Chelsea one but not the other two.

Tulani 2014-01-19 20:20

Job done. Just smash this Man U into oblivion

beetle bailey 2014-01-19 22:40

Well done Chelsea. Beginning to think that united are going to have a difficult time to make the top four what with three teams all being six or more points better off than them at this stage.

Regarding the game itself I thought that, to their credit, united kept on trying and looked quite good from about halfway through the second half and resulted in them scoring a goal. Vidic was, perhaps harshly, shown a red card but Raphael was extremely lucky to get away with only a yellow when he went into a tackle with both feet raised. THAT should have been red.

Spurs look to be coming back into contention and Sherwood has surprised me with the results that he's obtained with this team since he took over. Never gave him a chance so guess that shows you what I know about football.

Top three sides continue on their merry way, Manchester City, Arsenal and Chelsea and cannot see anyone challenging these sides for the title. My money is still on Manchester City.

Flynn 2014-01-23 07:24

Juan Mata should be a MU player soon - he is under going his medicals at MU. He will certainly make a huge difference in the MU set up

Another loss by MU last night - this means that MU is out of the Capital One Cup, MU squandered a lot of chances by putting the ball in the back of the net. It was nice to see the fight in MU last night in the dying minutes of the game. De Gea lost it for MU. MC should beat Sunderland very easily in the final because MC is far superior in every department but this being a cup final - we all know what to expect

beetle bailey 2014-01-23 12:33

De Gea committed a howler, as the saying goes, in conceding that goal which could have won the game for Sunderland if it was not for a final minute, of extra time, equaliser which took the game into a penalty shoot out. After both sides had taken their five spot kicks it ended with Sunderland winning by 2 successfully taken penalty kicks to united's one. Woeful penalty taking on the night.

Manchester City are not manchester united and I therefore cannot see Sunderland managing to win the final.

Tulani 2014-01-23 12:55

DSTV wishes to inform its valued customers that from this week, all Manchester United matches will now be shown on Cartoon Network and Boomerang. This is to pave way for the screening of more serious matches. Inconveniences caused by previous screening of Manchester United matches on Supersport is sincerely regretted.

beetle bailey 2014-01-23 16:42

[QUOTE=Tulani;178613]DSTV wishes to inform its valued customers that from this week, all Manchester United matches will now be shown on Cartoon Network and Boomerang. This is to pave way for the screening of more serious matches. Inconveniences caused by previous screening of Manchester United matches on Supersport is sincerely regretted.[/QUOTE]

As I've said before, "Pride cometh before a fall". united are going through this fall at the moment but make no mistake the same will one day happen to Chelsea. When a team dominates for any length of time as Liverpool and manchester united have done, albeit in different eras, the time will come when they'll be knocked off their perch.

Perhaps Chelsea will escape though because they haven't yet really dominated anything for any length of time. Odd trophy or two but nothing collected on a consistent basis over a couple of seasons. Currently they are competing against what to me is the next big team, Manchester City who seem to be the real big spenders these days.

Chris Hanson 2014-01-23 17:36

I read somewhere recently that Manchester United are looking to buy new players, but no-one was selling. I think this just goes to show what's wrong with the EPL these days. Instead of developing young players through a youth development program, teams just go out and buy a player when needed as opposed to bringing the through the ranks. This also reflects on the state of the England team in general, in that Hodgson battles to put together a squad of English born players that can compete at the highest level. Of the top 4 or 5 English Premiere League teams, Arsenal seem to be the only one who still believes in youth development.

Tulani 2014-01-23 17:40

An all English EPL might just be boring

Chris Hanson 2014-01-23 17:52

[QUOTE=Tulani;178640]An all English EPL might just be boring[/QUOTE]

Not at all. I grew up in the UK and spent countless Saturdays down at the Victoria Ground in Stoke cheering on the Potters in a time when foreign players were almost unheard of. The First Division (as it then was called) was extremely closely fought, players were as hard as nails, and if a player broke his leg in a bone crunching tackle, it was simply called an unfortunate accident.
When Argentines Ossie Ardiles and Ricardo Villa were signed by Spurs it was headline news for weeks. :eek:
Without sounding like a nostalgic old git, I think the EPL has become a watered down version of what it was 35 years ago.

beetle bailey 2014-01-23 18:04

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;178641]Without sounding like a nostalgic old git, I think the EPL has become a watered down version of what it was 35 years ago.[/QUOTE]

Why drag me into this comment of yours? (nostalgic old git? Really! :D)

Chris can you imagine how most of today's players in the English Premier League would have coped with players like Vinnie Jones, Dennis Wise, Graeme Souness, Roy Keane just to mention a few names. They will be crying for their mommies and complaining that they need more protection. Remember also that 35 years ago one could tackle from behind as long as it was a clean attempt to play the ball. Strangely though, I cannot recall players from that era pulling jerseys anywhere near as much as they do today.

But I'm still thinking about whether or not to forgive you for calling me a NOSTALGIC OLD GIT!

Tulani 2014-01-23 18:09

Anyway I think it differs with individual demographic preference.

Not taking anything away from your input.

Chris Hanson 2014-01-23 18:27

Hey Beetle, from old git to another, what about Billy Bremner of Leeds ? I think he filled more hospital beds than any other player. Even the fans were ruthless. As one Two Ronnie's sketch noted; "fighting between rival fans was interrupted for 90 minutes after the field was invaded by 22 players" :D

beetle bailey 2014-01-23 21:50

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;178646]Hey Beetle, from old git to another, what about Billy Bremner of Leeds ? I think he filled more hospital beds than any other player. Even the fans were ruthless. As one Two Ronnie's sketch noted; "fighting between rival fans was interrupted for 90 minutes after the field was invaded by 22 players" :D[/QUOTE]

Yep Billy Bremner was one of the "heavies" of the time as well. Although he wasn't exactly a huge person he punched above his weight, think that's the saying, when it came to dishing it out. Pretty certain that there are a number of other players who were "enforcers" on the field.

My son and I often comment about derbies, especially the Merseyside one, and about how "soft" these games are these days. Likewise the FA Cup games which used to be blood and thunder type games. These days it's nothing at all like it used to be. :o

beetle bailey 2014-01-29 17:42

I'm very surprised that there hasn't been any posts regarding last night's games where manchester united beat Cardiff City 2 - 0 and Arsenal dropped points in a 2 - 2 draw with Southampton.

united welcomed back rvp and it wasn't long before he scored. Then we had mata making his first appearance for united. rooney was on the bench but not watching this game I don't know whether he came on as a substitute later in the game. united, by signing mata, and having the other two back in the fold could now become serious contenders for the fourth spot. Maybe even a bit higher but too much to do to finish top.

Arsenal suffered a setback to their title hopes with that draw of theirs and to add to their woes lost Flamini to a red card ruling him out for the next three games. A further problem is that Ramsey, who was expected to be fit for last night's game, suffered some form of relapse and who knows when he'll be back. Wenger complaining that he's short of midfield players at the moment. Or was he simply making a statement? A couple of days ago I saw the upcoming Arsenal fixture list. Very tough when one includes the Champions League and cup fixtures with their league program.

Tonight's game between Man City and Spurs is, to my way of thinking, going to be the better game to watch tonight. Chelsea should comfortably deal with West Ham.

Still very interesting at the bottom end of the table.

beetle bailey 2014-02-01 14:52

New weekend of fixtures, transfer window closed but very few comments being posted here? :eek:

beetle bailey 2014-02-01 19:26

Stoke 2 manchester united 1 :o
Guess the forum's going to be quiet again for this next week?

Well done Chris and congratulations.

sd_steve 2014-02-01 22:42

bailey there won't he posts here for a while, since this forum is dominated by Manchester boys.

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beetle bailey 2014-02-02 12:44

[QUOTE=sd_steve;179421]bailey there won't he posts here for a while, since this forum is dominated by Manchester boys.

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They have been rather quiet recently. Wonder why? This after we were told earlier that they'll always support their team. Toto? Flynn?

MAVADO 2014-02-02 14:05

That match was a freak of nature. I will pay no attention to it. Terrible conditions, Rooney and RVP not completely fit enough to play 90 minutes effectively, losing Evans and Jones in the same game, Carrick going to the back, Rooney into midfield, Moyes bringing on Welbeck instead of Fletcher.

If Liverpool win today, that will almost guarantee no Champions League football next season.

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beetle bailey 2014-02-02 22:09

[QUOTE=MAVADO;179441]That match was a freak of nature. I will pay no attention to it. Terrible conditions, Rooney and RVP not completely fit enough to play 90 minutes effectively, losing Evans and Jones in the same game, Carrick going to the back, Rooney into midfield, Moyes bringing on Welbeck instead of Fletcher.

If Liverpool win today, that will almost guarantee no Champions League football next season.

Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]

Good to see at least one manchester united supporter staying with the forum. Please continue to let us have your comments. Liverpool struggled today and in the end were perhaps a shade lucky to come away with the one point. What a truly horrendous defensive blunder by Toure which gifted West Brom the equilizing goal. Kindergarden stuff.

So Liverpool still safely ahead of united at this stage but not yet out of sight.

Sandtonman 2014-02-03 08:49

Settled back in SA over the weekend and it seems I've bought back the English weather to Jhb! :eek:

Arsenal hanging in and produced excellent form last night. Confident, passing game. The Ox was terrific; he reminded me of Nasri playing at his best.

Bit of poor luck about our panic last-minute loaner being (getting) injured :( I've read either in training, or messing around on a beach -- take your pick.

We need Chelsea to grab a point tonight; but I've predicted 3-1 to City in SuperBru.

I'll be the very last to gloat about MU's current performance; these things always come back and bite you; but I actually feel very sorry for Moyes. He appears like a broken man. I just don't share Moyes' view of the game or of MU's performance and form. This daily Telegraph article says it the way most non MU supporters do.

[URL]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/10612006/Stoke-City-2-Manchester-United-1-match-report.html[/URL]

Have a good week guys, Cheers K.

beetle bailey 2014-02-03 11:20

Welcome back Sandtonman.

Did you manage to watch any of the Arsenal games while you were in the country? Of those sides challenging for the title Arsenal are still the one that I'd like to see win it, apart from Liverpool of course but that's not going to happen. But my money is still on Manchester City.

Would actually like to see a photo of moyes towards the end of his reign at Everton and one of him now. He seems to have aged quite a bit to me. Pressure on him must be immense. If he was with any other club I'd be wishing him well but being where he is I cannot find any sympathy for him. Sorry.

However, in one way I am hoping for a united revival as I miss the posts of the "so called" united supporters. :( Be good to have them back again. :)

Sandtonman 2014-02-03 11:37

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;179489]...... Welcome back Sandtonman.

Did you manage to watch any of the Arsenal games while you were in the country? ....... [/QUOTE]

Thanks for the welcome bb; good to be back. Unfortunately not this trip. For the first time in several years.

We were in Mozambique in early December, so were not around to organise tickets via Arsenal SA supporters' cub; also Sandy's cousin (and son) were using their season tickets for the few home matches.

We tried to get tickets on the Arsenal website for the Coventry FA cup match, which was on a Friday evening; but, unusually these sold out in minutes and we were unlucky. Some tickets became available on the general ticketing sites for around 3 x face value (+ 100 quid for rail fares and a kebab) so we baulked at that. Particularly as the weather forecast was atrocious.

So we stayed in with a good bottle red wine and a Waitrose curry and streamed the match live on BT sport in near HD. Good call!

Will be better organised for our UK Summer trip! Cheers, K.

Chris Hanson 2014-02-03 13:10

Obviously very chuffed with Stoke's win on Saturday. Yes, the 1st goal was very lucky, but Adam's second was a cracker. Moyes seems lost at the moment. Unfortunate to lose Jones and Evans, but his tactical changes just didn't come off. I think he was then forced to play RVP for a lot longer than he was ready for.
Still extremely tight at the wrong end of the table, Stoke kicked off in the relegation zone, and the win lifted them to 11th, but still only 3 points away from 20th. Going to need a few more performances like Saturday's before I can sleep well :D

Toto 2014-02-03 16:07

BB & Steve, we are taking a break while letting the haters celebrate.

I can see that United is enemy No 1 for all the contenders fans but it's okay. It just proves how miserable we have made you all feel the last 2 decades. Enjoy it whilst it lasts because we are NOT going to go 23 years without a league win. Ouch! Sorry was just stating facts :p

beetle bailey 2014-02-04 00:17

Welcome Toto. Yes, I admit that I am taking the "mickey" out of you united supporters but really would like to hear your comments on your, and other sides, performances. This forum is meant for general banter and football discussions. We must all expect to get "nailed" now and again when things don't go right for our teams.

Don't be a stranger.

Sandtonman 2014-02-04 12:08

[QUOTE=Sandtonman;179466]
......We need Chelsea to grab a point tonight; but I've predicted 3-1 to City in SuperBru........[/QUOTE]

There are times when it's really good to be wrong :eek:

While Chelsea have approached Arsenal at the top by winning last night, that City can be beaten at home will give a major confidence boost to all teams playing them in the near future; in addition to the 2-point lead that it gave the Arsenal :p

Oh, and it's interesting to see just how well Everton are performing now that they have got shot of Moyes. By the way, I seem to have forgotten where he ended up??? :rolleyes:

Cheers, K.

beetle bailey 2014-02-04 19:19

[QUOTE=Sandtonman;179627]There are times when it's really good to be wrong :eek:

While Chelsea have approached Arsenal at the top by winning last night, that City can be beaten at home will give a major confidence boost to all teams playing them in the near future; in addition to the 2-point lead that it gave the Arsenal :p

Oh, and it's interesting to see just how well Everton are performing now that they have got shot of Moyes. By the way, I seem to have forgotten where he ended up??? :rolleyes:

Cheers, K.[/QUOTE]

Good result for Arsenal last night. Obviously for Chelsea as well. Bit of a gap being created between top three sides and those challenging for fourth spot. For most of us, Toto, Flynn, sd_steve, tulani, Sandtonman, and one or two others, this season's league is very interesting. Think all our teams are fighting for a top four, or title, finish. Here we have City, Arsenal and Chelsea going for the title while manchester united, Liverpool, Everton and Spurs are all challenging for the fourth spot. Really keeping it interesting at the top and amongst us forumites.

Although, thankfully, our teams aren't struggling to avoid relegation there isn't all that many points between sides at the lower end of the table either. Anyone of a number of sides could go down come the end of the season. So there's immense interest there as well.

Sandtonman 2014-02-08 17:48

Shocked!
 
Well done to Liverpool, bb. There was only one team playing today and they looked great.
Arsenal did not turn up; unsure why. Let's see what AW has to say.
The team will need to bounce back very quickly when MU visit the Emirates on Wednesday.
Cheers, K.

beetle bailey 2014-02-08 19:01

Thanks Sandtonman. I don't think anyone saw that one coming. Some may have predicted a Liverpool win, I wasn't one of them, but don't think that anyone would have predicted such a scoreline.

Going to be interesting to see how Arsenal go from here. Don't have an easy run of games coming up and could quite easily lose a couple of them. Please just don't lose on Wednesday night.

As for Liverpool we have what appears to be an easy game against Fulham coming up next but these are the kind of games where we struggle. However, I do expect that we should pick up all three points even if it is away from home.

Chelsea winning and Manchester City only drawing means that Chelsea have had a good two weeks picking up six points to City's one and, unless I'm mistaken, Chelsea now top the league table.

Toto 2014-02-11 14:48

BB, and fellow EPL fans, I've been containing myself regarding Moyes's tactics and managerial style and giving him the benefit of the doubt but after the game this past Sunday I came a to a 2 word conclusion : "Moyes Out"

With David Moyes, we have no hope of remaining at the top. My prediction is that he will be sacked by January 2015. No CL hopes for us. Basically, we are swapping places with Liverpool for as long as Moyes is in charge . By the way, who said you had to be Scottish to manage United?

Chris Hanson 2014-02-11 15:57

[QUOTE=Toto;180082]BB, and fellow EPL fans, I've been containing myself regarding Moyes's tactics and managerial style and giving him the benefit of the doubt but after the game this past Sunday I came a to a 2 word conclusion : "Moyes Out"

With David Moyes, we have no hope of remaining on top. My prediction is that he will be sacked by January 2015. No CL hopes for us. Basically, we are swapping places with Liverpool for as long as Moyes is in charge . By the way, who said you had to be Scottish to manage United?[/QUOTE]

Hi Toto,
I think he's just way too conservative as a manager. It's like he manages via a manual. SAF made snap decisions based on what was happening in a match, DM seems like he's read the football bible and there's a command saying "Thou shall not make a substitution before the 70th minute".
Look at what Martinez has done with Everton, brought them out of their shells and slowly introduced a far more creative play to their game. I think the board at MU will probably see him through the season, and then admit it was an experiment that didn't work out. Makes you wonder what Evertons performance over the last 10 years might have been like.

beetle bailey 2014-02-11 19:59

Good to hear from you Toto. Seriously and no sarcasm or whatever intended.

moyes is a difficult one. Is it him or the players who are at fault? Think like most others I feel moyes is to blame when it comes to team selections and tactics. Also think there's some behind the scenes problems which we are not aware of. Vidic already announcing his wanting a transfer come the end of the season. Or perhaps I'm just reading something into it which isn't really there?

rooney, I thought, was really trying on Sunday but not too certain about some of the other players. Even though they were all very happy to take the lead against Fulham.

As others have said, it seems strange that Everton are doing so well at the moment yet when moyes was in charge they remained a mid table type of team. Never winning anything.

Should united fail to make a top four spot it's going to be very difficult for them to attract new, good, players to the club which is something that Liverpool have experienced over the past few years. Most of the good players want to play in the Champions League. If Liverpool fail to make a top four finish then I don't think we'll have Suarez with us next year.

Anyway, tomorrow night it's Arsenal against united. Guess I win whichever way this result goes. :D

sd_steve 2014-02-11 21:22

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;179937]
As for Liverpool we have what appears to be an easy game against Fulham coming up next but these are the kind of games where we struggle[/QUOTE]

Beetle, I'm betting heavily on a draw/lose here for Liverpool. It's not that I don't want to win, it's just that I know Liverpool too well.

Best value bet for miles, look after we creamed Everton what happened...we drew to West Brom.

sd_steve 2014-02-11 21:24

[QUOTE=Toto;180082]Basically, we are swapping places with Liverpool[/QUOTE]

We've suffered for a long time, now the glory boys will be feeling the pain. I hope you don't switch, I know too many who change allegiances when things aren't going so well.

You can always support Kaizer.

beetle bailey 2014-02-11 22:02

[QUOTE=sd_steve;180112]Beetle, I'm betting heavily on a draw/lose here for Liverpool. It's not that I don't want to win, it's just that I know Liverpool too well.

Best value bet for miles, look after we creamed Everton what happened...we drew to West Brom.[/QUOTE]

Know exactly how you feel and I've often felt the same. However, against a struggling Fulham side I'm fairly confident we'll get the victory. I expect Fulham to play the same way as they did against united, namely, pack the defence and rely on the occasional breakaway. But the difference between Liverpool and united may be that we won't be pumping the ball into the Fulham penalty area all the time but will rather be using quick running with Sterling, Sturridge and Suarez at the forefront.

May not be pretty and only expecting victory by a goal or two but will be surprised should we fail on the night.

Strange how our thoughts are. You are normally so positive while I'm more negative yet here our thoughts seem to be reversed. YNWA

beetle bailey 2014-02-11 22:03

[QUOTE=sd_steve;180113]We've suffered for a long time, now the glory boys will be feeling the pain. I hope you don't switch, I know too many who change allegiances when things aren't going so well.[/QUOTE]

Well said and +1.

sd_steve 2014-02-12 21:38

Apparently Man City vs Sunderland > Fulham vs Liverpool...hence no live HD....

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MAVADO 2014-02-13 19:39

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;179453]Good to see at least one manchester united supporter staying with the forum. Please continue to let us have your comments. Liverpool struggled today and in the end were perhaps a shade lucky to come away with the one point. What a truly horrendous defensive blunder by Toure which gifted West Brom the equilizing goal. Kindergarden stuff.

So Liverpool still safely ahead of united at this stage but not yet out of sight.[/QUOTE]

Oops, sorry about that :). Yeah I don't plan on becoming this guy that's for sure. Shocking! - > [IMG]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/14/ahe4y4a3.jpg[/IMG]

11 points behind Pool now and I think it's over. Pool, who are now good enough to win it. I still don't think they will but I will be close.

Very pleased with our tactics last night against Arsenal. Finally something positive. Even though we didn't play like Manchester United.

Lol @ Toure. Poor guy can't catch a break. But at least he took out the damn Ref. He's a legend in my books for that :D

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sd_steve 2014-02-13 21:59

Bravado...you just wanted rock up here and think you can use slang to refer to Liverpool. You're 10 years too early boy.

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beetle bailey 2014-02-13 22:05

Mavado, that bloke Peter referred to in your post isn't a real supporter of any team.Although he may say that he now supports his boyhood team I wonder what made him change to united in the first place. Could it have happened when Liverpool were not playing well? Now he's doing the exact same when united are struggling. Sorry but to me this type of supporter isn't a true supporter. Wonder how long before he changes to another club?

Koule Toure is becoming a bit of a joke defensive wise. In between all the good stuff he may do he makes some really stupid errors. Like against West Brom and then last night's effort against Fulham. This unfortunately has been Liverpools problems for awhile now and not just with Toure. Skrtel, too is prone to some schoolboy errors. Rather surprising that with these types of errors we still manage to be where we are at the moment.

Was pretty funny the way Toure took out the ref. Ran into him with some force and never even stopped to see if he, the ref, was hurt. Simply kept on running to get back into his defensive position. A true professional. :D

beetle bailey 2014-02-16 20:10

Liverpool lost so I'm trying to figure out why I've bothered to come and post on this forum? :confused:

Sandtonman, congratulations on your victory over Liverpool by 2 - 1. If we had taken our chances then perhaps the scoreline may have looked different. However, we didn't so that's the end of it.

Although I'm disappointed I'm not devastated by this result as, and I know this sounds like a cliche, we can now concentrate solely on a top four league finish. Won't go into the details of why at this stage as that would derail the reason for this post. Which is to say, "well played Arsenal" and congratulations on your victory.

Sandtonman 2014-02-16 21:57

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;180427] Liverpool lost so I'm trying to figure out why I've bothered to come and post on this forum? :confused:

Sandtonman, congratulations on your victory over Liverpool......... I know this sounds like a cliche, we can now concentrate solely on a top four league finish....... [/QUOTE]

Thanks, bb. Quite a bounce-back. But that's football!

Not a cliché, but a fact of life; I fully agree that being focused just on the league will significantly increase your top 4 chances.

Meanwhile we need to prepare to meet Bayern on Wednesday. Only good thing is, it's again at the Emirates. Cheers, K.

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Orange 2014-02-17 10:39

Quite happy Arsenal won. Way rather have Arsenal at the Emirates than Liverpool at Anfield. Everton have a samll chance of beating Arsenal at their ground, against Liverpool there'd be no chance. Although maybe that's why Liverpool lost? They were scared of us? ;)

The only way that draw gets worse for Everton is if we got City at the Etihad (what's with airlines sponsoring stadia anyway??? Maybe Cape Town should look at getting SAA to sponsor Cape Town Stadium?). Why couldn't we have got a lower league opposition? Can only imagine that if (by some miracle) we beat Arsenal it will be City up next. With our luck we'd have to do it the hard way...

Toto 2014-02-17 17:00

Now that we are out of the CL race, I think it's time for the board of directors to start looking for DM's replacement. I don't think there's hope with a clueless guy like DM who puts our bad form down to bad luck.

I don't think BB, you thought back in 1990, even in your wildest dreams that it would take whatever it will take for you guys to win the league again? Well we better learn from that and act swiftly.

What are the odds of MAN U beating Palace at the week-end. Probably high I guess...

beetle bailey 2014-02-17 20:57

[QUOTE=Toto;180515]I don't think BB, you thought back in 1990, even in your wildest dreams that it would take whatever it will take for you guys to win the league again? Well we better learn from that and act swiftly.[/QUOTE]

If you had asked me back in 1990 whether we'd have gone this long without winning the league I'd have possibly said that I hoped not. Think it was always a case of "perhaps next year we'll do it", only for that year to come and for us to be further behind united or whoever it was that won the league. Over the past few years I think most Liverpool supporters were aware that we just never had the players to win the league and some drastic changes needed to take place.

We now appear to have owners who, although not breaking the bank when it comes to making money available for transfers, do seem to have some sort of decent policy in place. Not prepared to pay over the top prices for players which to me makes good business sense. (Heard this morning that rooney's new contract could net him 300 000 pounds a WEEK! :eek: This is just ridiculous - provided it's true).

It has taken years for Liverpool to reach the position that we now hold in the league with an outside chance of even finishing higher than fourth. Should this happen then I think Liverpool could attract better class players and hopefully finally be in a position to once again challenge for a league title. Finish out of the top four this season and who knows what will happen? Suarez will be gone but perhaps with the money his sale will bring in we could buy a couple of decent replacements.

So yes, united could perhaps be very near to experiencing what Liverpool went through and it will take a big effort from all concerned at the club to prevent them going the same way. What concerned me(?) about united over the past year or two was that the only big named player that I'm aware they brought in was rvp. They also got scholes out of retirement to assist them. This doesn't indicate to me a club that has that much money to splash out on new players. This could perhaps be something that's hindering moyes as well?

But all this is pure speculation on my part as I don't claim to have any knowledge of what goes on at united, nor for that matter, at Liverpool. (We started our slide under what was supposed to be a good manager who had won trophies with Glasgow Rangers and who when he took over at Liverpool sold a couple of our better players. Beardsley being one of them. From then onwards it was all downhill):(

Flynn 2014-02-18 14:43

It is a good thing that MU never play over the weekend - they would have probably lost:) based on their results lately

Liverpool probably went into the Arsenal game with their heads held very high up - they dominated the game but we all know that the goals are what matters. Liverpool only has the EPL to go for now which I doubt they will snatch that away from MC, Chelsea or Arsenal. Liverpool is having a brilliant season and they are in 4th place - they don't look like championship material, sorry BB

Chris Hanson 2014-02-18 17:16

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;180522] (We started our slide under what was supposed to be a good manager who had won trophies with Glasgow Rangers and who when he took over at Liverpool sold a couple of our better players. Beardsley being one of them. From then onwards it was all downhill):([/QUOTE]

I'm assuming you're talking about Dalglish. Let's face it BB, anyone who managed at either Celtic or Rangers back in the day would almost certainly end up winning something :D

Personally, I think this whole notion that being an successful player translates into being a successful manager is a crock of ****. I can't think of a single ex-player/manager who's achieved anything worthwhile.

beetle bailey 2014-02-18 20:16

Chris the player/manager I was referring to was Graeme Souness. When he was first appointed I thought it was a good decision but, even though he was successful elsewhere, he didn't "cut it" at Liverpool. Seem to remember him letting a lot of the existing players leave and thereby destroying the core of the side. From then on it was always a case of trying to play catch up.

Dalglish, as an ex player manager, did win the league with Liverpool, in fact I think they won both the league and the FA Cup in the same season, and then also won the league with Blackburn. However, I too am of the opinion that a good player doesn't necessarily make a good manager. Although having experience at the highest level does help.

Orange 2014-02-19 09:55

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;180608]I'm assuming you're talking about Dalglish. Let's face it BB, anyone who managed at either Celtic or Rangers back in the day would almost certainly end up winning something :D

Personally, I think this whole notion that being an successful player translates into being a successful manager is a crock of ****. I can't think of a single ex-player/manager who's achieved anything worthwhile.[/QUOTE]

I would like to point out that a certain Sir Alex Ferguson was a successful player (he represented Scotland) before becoming a manager...and no one will deny he is one of the most successful managers of all time.

beetle bailey 2014-02-19 10:07

[QUOTE=Orange;180691]I would like to point out that a certain Sir Alex Ferguson was a successful player (he represented Scotland) before becoming a manager...and no one will deny he is one of the most successful managers of all time.[/QUOTE]

Don't think anyone can dispute that he was one of the most successful managers of all time. Managed not only manchester united but also the English Referee's Association, The English FA Committee, The FA Disciplinary Panel as well as most of the Press. May even be others that I'm not aware of.

Takes some doing to manage all those at the same time.:D

Orange 2014-02-19 10:34

He even managed the football boot throwing association...

Sandtonman 2014-02-19 13:02

[QUOTE=Orange;180702]He even managed the football boot throwing association...[/QUOTE]

And you are forgetting that he was chairman and founder member of the dishonourable society of RFSGs :p

Answer: [spoiler] [B][SIZE=4]Red faced Scotch Gits[/SIZE][/B] :p [/spoiler]

Cheers, K

beetle bailey 2014-02-19 14:00

[QUOTE=Sandtonman;180731]And you are forgetting that he was chairman and founder member of the dishonourable society of RFSGs :p

Answer: [spoiler] [B][SIZE=4]Red faced Scotch Gits[/SIZE][/B] :p [/spoiler]

Cheers, K[/QUOTE]

Now now let's not be nasty. After all Kenny Dalglish is also Scottish. Although I don't think he has the red nose syndrome. :rolleyes::D

Chris Hanson 2014-02-19 15:10

[QUOTE=Sandtonman;180731]And you are forgetting that he was chairman and founder member of the dishonourable society of RFSGs :p

Answer: [spoiler] [B][SIZE=4]Red faced Scotch Gits[/SIZE][/B] :p [/spoiler]

Cheers, K[/QUOTE]

And to be grammatically correct, SAF was Scots, not Scotch. :D

Sandtonman 2014-02-19 15:22

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;180758]And to be grammatically correct, SAF was Scots, not Scotch. :D[/QUOTE]

Exactly, well spotted Chris; the "Scotch" is deliberately intended to be a secondary insult; as the Scots particularly hate being called Scotch. or worse still "Skoffers"! The latter is a fairly recently made up insult, in use only in the better parts of Kent, by Arsenal supporters. Specifically by my best mate Rick and me :eek:
Cheers, K.

Flynn 2014-02-24 07:31

Finally, Manchester United fans has something to brag about, lovely win against Crystal Palace over the weekend. Rooney signed a new contract. The team selection was good by Moyes and co but my fear is that Moyes will make at least 5 changes for the next game. MU is in 6th position now

Everton & Spurs lost over the weekend - this makes life better for MU

Liverpool won a 7 goal fiesta against Swansea to keep the hunt against the leaders

Chelsea & MC do what they do best - win, no matter what

I see England got a nice passage in the European Cup - they should qualify very easily

sd_steve 2014-02-25 12:31

[QUOTE=Flynn;181011]Finally, Manchester United fans has something to brag about, lovely win against Crystal Palace over the weekend.[/QUOTE]

Yes, winning 2 nil away is something out of the ordinary. Congratulations mate.

Tulani 2014-02-26 16:23

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Toto 2014-02-26 17:13

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;180758]And to be grammatically correct, SAF was Scots, not Scotch. :D[/QUOTE]

Chris, the last I checked SAF is still alive so grammatically speaking it should say "SAF is Scot not was Scot:D

Chris Hanson 2014-02-26 17:22

[QUOTE=Toto;181310]Chris, the last I checked SAF is still alive so grammatically speaking it should say "SAF is Scot not was Scot:D[/QUOTE]

Crickey, suddenly everyone is an English teacher :D

Toto 2014-02-27 08:56

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;181313]Crickey, suddenly everyone is an English teacher :D[/QUOTE]

:D You started it! Better talking about English grammar than ManU these days :D

beetle bailey 2014-02-27 10:04

[QUOTE=Toto;181380]:D You started it! Better talking about English grammar than ManU these days :D[/QUOTE]

Depends on which side of the fence one is sitting. :D

beetle bailey 2014-03-03 10:13

Chris, congratulations on a good win over the weekend beating Arsenal by 1 - 0. Surprise result of the weekend as far as I'm concerned.

Liverpool after taking the 1 - 0 lead against Southampton then had a tough time for most of the rest of the match having to defend, defend and defend. Final score of 3 - 0, although very pleasing to me, doesn't give the true picture of the game. From about the 20th to the 75th minute it was mostly Southampton running things with the occasional breakaway by Liverpool. Never gave us a hope of holding out but to the defence's credit they did. Good three points picked up.

At one time Manchester City were my bet to win the league and they still are but Chelsea are going to be giving them a good run for their money. Arsenal and Liverpool may be fighting it out for third spot with Spurs challenging for the fourth position. Everton, somehow, I don't think will stay in the running for a Champions League spot and could possibly be overtaken by manchester united.

Down at the bottom it looks like Fulham and Crystal Palace are doomed. Not sure at this time who will be going down with them. West Brom perhaps?

Sandtonman 2014-03-03 10:38

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;181592]Chris, congratulations on a good win over the weekend beating Arsenal by 1 - 0. Surprise result of the weekend as far as I'm concerned. [/QUOTE]

Arsenal simply did not turn up on the day. Stoke frequently our Achilles heal. Cheers, K.

Chris Hanson 2014-03-03 18:01

Spoke to a fellow Potter friend of mine who was at the game, he was suprised at how poorly Arsenal played. In his words "Can't believe the Gunners gifted us 3 points".
BB, I think you probably mean that Fulham and Cardiff are doomed, I have a feeling Palace might just stay up, especially with a game in hand over the next 5 teams above them. Also surprised at how badly WBA are doing, they had pretty good outing last season.

beetle bailey 2014-03-03 21:12

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;181694]Spoke to a fellow Potter friend of mine who was at the game, he was suprised at how poorly Arsenal played. In his words "Can't believe the Gunners gifted us 3 points".
BB, I think you probably mean that Fulham and Cardiff are doomed, I have a feeling Palace might just stay up, especially with a game in hand over the next 5 teams above them. Also surprised at how badly WBA are doing, they had pretty good outing last season.[/QUOTE]

Quite correct yes. Cardiff and not Crystal Palace. Thanks for the correction.

Flynn 2014-03-04 11:34

What did Alan Pardew get himself into now???? He admitted to his head butt but he being a manager should know better

beetle bailey 2014-03-04 20:42

[QUOTE=Flynn;181768]What did Alan Pardew get himself into now???? He admitted to his head butt but he being a manager should know better[/QUOTE]

At least he takes his frustrations out on the opposition and doesn't throw boots at his own players. :rolleyes::D

Flynn 2014-03-10 08:47

Good wins for MU & Chelsea over the weekend

Damn, Wigan really made the biggest shock of the season in the FA, they took off MC to reach the semi finals. MC playing at home, one would expect a good football lesson to be taught to Wigan, MC is very dominant at home. Last year's FA Cup final was not too bad because both these clubs were in the EPL but this time round, Wigan is in the 1st division but as we all know, cup games always tend to have these different outcomes

sd_steve 2014-03-10 11:33

[QUOTE=Flynn;182177]Good wins for MU & Chelsea over the weekend

Damn, Wigan really made the biggest shock of the season in the FA, they took off MC to reach the semi finals. MC playing at home, one would expect a good football lesson to be taught to Wigan, MC is very dominant at home. Last year's FA Cup final was not too bad because both these clubs were in the EPL but this time round, Wigan is in the 1st division but as we all know, cup games always tend to have these different outcomes[/QUOTE]

I think I get your point, you are saying Wigan is better than United.

beetle bailey 2014-03-14 11:19

Spurs against Arsenal and manchester united taking on Liverpool are the two big ones at the top end of the table this weekend. I believe there's also a big one at the lower end but cannot remember who the two sides are.

Concentrating at the top I fancy Arsenal to beat Spurs seeing that Spurs had a fairly hard game on Thursday night and the Arsenal players would have an extra day to recover from their midweek fixture. Prediction: Arsenal 2 Spurs 1.

Then the biggie as far as some of us are concerned. Although some are making Liverpool favourites for this one I'm not quite so certain of a victory. united seem to be staging something of a comeback and should be well up for this game. As will Liverpool. Can see penalties being awarded. Liverpool perhaps have the better strike force but not by much. rvp and rooney aren't that far behind Suarez and Sturridge. Then the Liverpool defence is often found wanting while united's is just that little bit more solid. Prediction: 2 All.

As a Liverpool supporter I'm obviously wanting a win but wouldn't cry too much should we only get away with a draw. A loss also isn't totally out of the picture either.

sd_steve 2014-03-14 14:02

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;182625]
Then the biggie as far as some of us are concerned. Although some are making Liverpool favourites for this one I'm not quite so certain of a victory. united seem to be staging something of a comeback and should be well up for this game. As will Liverpool. Can see penalties being awarded. Liverpool perhaps have the better strike force but not by much. rvp and rooney aren't that far behind Suarez and Sturridge. Then the Liverpool defence is often found wanting while united's is just that little bit more solid. Prediction: 2 All.

As a Liverpool supporter I'm obviously wanting a win but wouldn't cry too much should we only get away with a draw. A loss also isn't totally out of the picture either.[/QUOTE]

Well thanks for that, always bringing in that pessimistic side so you are guarded win or lose.

beetle bailey 2014-03-14 17:04

[QUOTE=sd_steve;182658]Well thanks for that, always bringing in that pessimistic side so you are guarded win or lose.[/QUOTE]

Some call it being pessimistic while others tend to call it being realistic. ;)

sd_steve 2014-03-17 08:10

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;182679]Some call it being pessimistic while others tend to call it being realistic. ;)[/QUOTE]

Cool story old man, but you should back your team.

3 of the best...

Poetry in motion tra-la-la-la-la

beetle bailey 2014-03-17 12:01

[QUOTE=sd_steve;182793]Cool story old man, but you should back your team.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps you have something with this statement of yours. I know I'm inclined to concentrate on our weaknesses rather than our strengths. Still, this way I don't get disappointed too often.

Apart from the excellent result the highlight for me was seeing alex ferguson's face towards the end of the game. :D

Some may say that there were some dodgy refereeing decisions that cost united dearly but over the full 90 minutes I think things just about balanced themselves out. united not awarded a penalty for the alleged hand ball by Johnson cancelled out by a blatant trip on Sturridge which was not given. vidic being unfairly sent off when Sturridge dived cancelled out what should have been raphael's second yellow card when he handled in the penalty area.

Great victory for Liverpool and united now have no chance of finishing in top four. Unless there's some miracle of biblical proportions.

Again, so far, no response from any united supporters?

Flynn 2014-03-17 16:17

What can I say??? MU performance this season has been down in the gutters, I never expected much against a rampant Liverpool.

Congrats BB, Steve and other Liverpool supporters - I just hope/wish that Liverpool DO NOT win the league:D

Chris Hanson 2014-03-17 17:39

An interesting stat is that Liverpool have already scored more points this season than in the past 3 seasons full 38 games. MU have scored 80 points or more for the last 3 seasons, the most they can get out of this one is 75. In the last 6 league games Liverpool have secured 16 points to MU's 8 point. (In fact, Liverpool have been the top points earners for the last 6 games, more than Chelsea, Arsenal and MC)
BB, I think you're selling your lads short :D

beetle bailey 2014-03-17 21:11

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;182935]An interesting stat is that Liverpool have already scored more points this season than in the past 3 seasons full 38 games. MU have scored 80 points or more for the last 3 seasons, the most they can get out of this one is 75. In the last 6 league games Liverpool have secured 16 points to MU's 8 point. (In fact, Liverpool have been the top points earners for the last 6 games, more than Chelsea, Arsenal and MC)
BB, I think you're selling your lads short :D[/QUOTE]

It would seem like it yes. But over the years I've been quietely optimistic only to see us stumble against sides we would have been expected to beat. Think this is the reason for my constant cautious approach to our games.

As for the stats one needs to take a number of variants into consideration. Who were the games against and were they home or away matches? Did the opposition have a fully fit squad etc etc. Stats are there to be manipulated any way one likes. It's only really at the end of the season when everyone has completed playing all their home and away games that the true picture can be revealed.

That said I'm pretty happy with the stats given by Chris as they do show that the club is moving in the right direction.

beetle bailey 2014-03-17 21:12

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;182935]An interesting stat is that Liverpool have already scored more points this season than in the past 3 seasons full 38 games. MU have scored 80 points or more for the last 3 seasons, the most they can get out of this one is 75. In the last 6 league games Liverpool have secured 16 points to MU's 8 point. (In fact, Liverpool have been the top points earners for the last 6 games, more than Chelsea, Arsenal and MC)
BB, I think you're selling your lads short :D[/QUOTE]

It would seem like it yes. But over the years I've been quietly optimistic only to see us stumble against sides we would have been expected to beat. Think this is the reason for my constant cautious approach to our games.

As for the stats one needs to take a number of variants into consideration. Who were the games against and were they home or away matches? Did the opposition have a fully fit squad etc etc. Stats are there to be manipulated any way one likes. It's only really at the end of the season when everyone has completed playing all their home and away games that the true picture can be revealed.

That said I'm pretty happy with the stats given by Chris as they do show that the club is moving in the right direction.

sd_steve 2014-03-18 21:18

Bb, you have been under the hammer for too long....bring on Chelsea and man city

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beetle bailey 2014-03-19 09:35

[QUOTE=sd_steve;183077]Bb, you have been under the hammer for too long....bring on Chelsea and man city

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]

......... ;):)

Tulani 2014-03-22 16:58

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Ref: "Gibbs, you're off!" Ox: "But ref, it was me!" Ref: "Shut up Walcott, get on with the game"

Sandtonman 2014-03-22 18:02

[QUOTE=Tulani;183256]Ref: "Gibbs, you're off!" Ox: "But ref, it was me!" Ref: "Shut up Walcott, get on with the game"[/QUOTE]

Hi T, that raised a smile on an otherwise miserable afternoon.
Despite the ref's insistence on sending off the wrong bloke, clearly the best team won on the day.

Cheers, K.

beetle bailey 2014-03-23 11:51

Don't know how the ref managed to send off the wrong player as it appeared on tv as if he had a clear view of the incident and surely must have known which player was involved.

As to the result I don't think anyone saw such a big winning margin between the two sides. Well done to Chelsea and commiseration to Sandtonman. As a Liverpool supporter I have mixed feelings about this result. Happy that Arsenal have fallen a bit further behind us in the race for a top four finish but disappointed that Chelsea haven't dropped points in the race for league honours.

Liverpool had a difficult game against Cardiff and really struggled in the first half. Passing went astray way too easily and Gerrard appeared to be lacking something. However, came back strongly in the second half and scoreline of 6 - 3 says it all.

manchester united continued on their winning ways and unless I'm mistaken have now won TWO games in a row? Noticed that moyes had made a number of changes to his starting line up as well. Seems like he still doesn't know what his best eleven is or is this it? Good first goal by rooney but was that a push on the defender just before he got possession and fired in that long range shot? Not too sure he knew much about the second goal though. Still three points in the bag and a possible revival on the way.

Flynn 2014-03-24 12:34

Arsenal got a thrashing again from a team in the top 4. Arsenal is definitely not championship material

Liverpool did what they do best these day - winning games

MU - well we won again, 2 times last week and that is something to be proud off these days. Rooney's goal, that should be the goal of the season, some would say that Rooney pushed the defender but that was more a nudge, the defender was too weak but all in all, it was a master class goal. BB you right in saying that the second goal, Rooney had no idea at all but we will take the win though

Just off the EPL - anyone watched the El Classio between Barca & Real. I saw the highlights this morning, 3 penalties - I would argue these penalties but then again I don't watch Spanish soccer and don't know how the refs handle games in Spain

Chris Hanson 2014-03-24 17:55

What a weekend of crazy results. The Chelsea game was almost farcical, never seen a ref send off the wrong player when Ox cleared volunteered to walk. BB, these teams that are struggling to stay up like Cardiff tend to find a new level of determination towards the end of the season, teams which are almost certainly going to stay up ( but don't have European aspirations,) can get a bit too relaxed. Which I guess must have happened at Villa Park yesterday when my lads game from a goal down to win 4-1. And with 3 more points in the bag, I suspect I'll be hanging around this forum next season :D

beetle bailey 2014-03-25 09:43

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;183370]when my lads game from a goal down to win 4-1. And with 3 more points in the bag, I suspect I'll be hanging around this forum next season :D[/QUOTE]

Always good to have you "hanging around" as we need more supporters posting here in order to keep the thread alive. Some of the regulars seem to have moved on and are no longer posting here. Perhaps one or two will return after tonight's derby? :D

Where are the supporters of teams other than manchester united, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Everton and Stoke?

Flynn 2014-03-25 12:25

MU vs MC tonite - any predictions????

I am going to go with a 2 - 0 win for MU, a result like this will help Chelsea & Liverpool:D but MU players need this high tense game before the Bayern Munich match

Orange 2014-03-25 14:55

According to Supersport.com, the red card Gibbs erroneously received has been rescinded. Also, the punishment was transferred to Oxlade-Chamberlain, but also overturned on the argument that no goal was denied as the shot was going wide anyway.

All in all, if there had to be a red card shown, I think Arsenal got just about the lightest punishment they could have. I don't really think the red card changed the outcome of the match materially (when you go 2-0 down inside 10 minutes the likelihood is that you are still going to concede a few more and certainly won't win the match), so all things considered, not as bad as it could've been.

I'm really hoping for City to pump about 5 past United tonight. That will help us no end (assuming of course that we can win tonight as well). And if Swansea can scramble a win at the Emirates...well, then I will be a happy chappy tomorrow!

Chris Hanson 2014-03-25 17:43

I'm baffled that the FA (or whoever does this) can schedule a match as big as MU vMC in the middle of the week, and quite late our time. I think the Liverpool /Everton clash was also a mid-week fixture. Not impressed.

beetle bailey 2014-03-25 20:12

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;183431]I'm baffled that the FA (or whoever does this) can schedule a match as big as MU vMC in the middle of the week, and quite late our time. I think the Liverpool /Everton clash was also a mid-week fixture. Not impressed.[/QUOTE]

I could be way out here but I THINK this is one of the games that were postponed due to cup commitments? Therefore, if I am right, there isn't another Saturday or Sunday when this game could be played. All midweek games kick off in England at around 22h00 South African time so not much that could have been done there either.

Agreed it would have been better if the game could have been played over a weekend or at a more suitable time for us in South Africa but can understand why the game is being played at the time it is.

Flynn 2014-03-26 07:36

Wow MU had a lot of supporters last night which includes MU supporters, Liverpool supporters & Chelsea supporters:D

MC beat MU 3-0 to move into 2nd position in the EPL - well as I said before, I don't mind any other team winning the EPL beside Liverpool - sorry BB

Orange 2014-03-26 08:41

[QUOTE=Flynn;183459]Wow MU had a lot of supporters last night which includes MU supporters, Liverpool supporters & Chelsea supporters:D

MC beat MU 3-0 to move into 2nd position in the EPL - well as I said before, I don't mind any other team winning the EPL beside Liverpool - sorry BB[/QUOTE]

Ummm...I don't think they had Liverpool supporters on their side. Some things are just never going to happen.

For Everton, last night went just about as well as it could have. City put 3 past United, we put 3 past Newcastle (we're now 6 points ahead, with a game in hand, and a somewhat better goal difference - I notice we've got the third meanest defence in the league!). Also only 6 points behind Arsenal, with a game in hand AND a fixture against them in a week and a half. What a huge game that might turn out to be!

Maybe Martinez was not smoking his socks when he said we had a chance of Champions League football after all...:eek:

Toto 2014-03-26 10:05

I'm not sure as a Utd fan who I want to win the league between the noisy neighbours, the old enemies and the Russian roulette kids? I'm baffled :mad:

What is certain is I WILL NOT BE PLEASED :mad::mad:

beetle bailey 2014-03-26 11:48

[QUOTE=Toto;183463]I'm not sure as a Utd fan who I want to win the league between the noisy neighbours, the old enemies and the Russian roulette kids? I'm baffled :mad:

What is certain is I WILL NOT BE PLEASED :mad::mad:[/QUOTE]

Toto at one stage earlier in the competition I was in exactly the same position as you are now in. Was hoping for Arsenal to take the title but they've now blown it. Only three teams left in the title chase with Liverpool being one of them. So no guessing who I want to win the league. :D

Guess I'm just so against united that I wasn't bothered about who won last night's derby between the two manchester teams. Either way I was a winner, or perhaps that could be changed to read ... a loser?

Going to be an interesting final couple of games before the season comes to a close.

Flynn, no hard feelings on my part for your not wanting Liverpool to win the league. It's the way I would have felt if united were where Liverpool are now.

Regarding last night's match. My knowledge of football must be sadly lacking because although nowhere near the standards of some previous united sides, I never thought that last night's performance was all that bad. Certainly the better side won and there can be no disputing that but just how bad is this united side? Think with a couple of decent signings, especially in the defence and perhaps one or two midfielders, they will once again be up with the other big boys. The problem though may be in being able to sign these players due to there being no Champions League football next year. Thoughts?

Flynn 2014-03-26 12:38

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;183469]Flynn, no hard feelings on my part for your not wanting Liverpool to win the league. It's the way I would have felt if united were where Liverpool are now[/QUOTE]

No hard feelings BB - as you aware the rivalry between MU & Liverpool, both these supporters does not want the other to do well, well I guess we are no different hey

I see Bayern Munich clinched the German League last night and they still have 7 games to play for this season. I am certainly not happy with that because MU will be in for a very good soccer lesson from the Germans:mad: Cup games - anything can happen

Chris Hanson 2014-03-26 17:28

[QUOTE=Flynn;183471]I see Bayern Munich clinched the German League last night and they still have 7 games to play for this season. I am certainly not happy with that because MU will be in for a very good soccer lesson from the Germans:mad: Cup games - anything can happen[/QUOTE]

Bayern have been unbeatable for nearly two seasons now. They only lost 1 game last season, and are unbeaten this season. It's going to take something VERY special from MU to get past them.

Flynn 2014-03-27 07:22

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;183489]Bayern have been unbeatable for nearly two seasons now. They only lost 1 game last season, and are unbeaten this season. It's going to take something VERY special from MU to get past them.[/QUOTE]

On that note - Celtic also won the Scottish league last with 7 games to go:confused:

Liverpool is 1 point behind leaders Chelsea in the EPL race - this is the business end of the EPL and if one falters, they will pay very dearly for this mistakes

How about the West Ham game last night? West Ham won 2-1 and the supporters booed the manager - damn, the team can only get 3 points for a win, stupid poms

Flynn 2014-03-27 07:24

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;183431]I'm baffled that the FA (or whoever does this) can schedule a match as big as MU vMC in the middle of the week, and quite late our time. I think the Liverpool /Everton clash was also a mid-week fixture. Not impressed.[/QUOTE]

The good news is that the clock will turn at the end of this month in Europe, we will start watching these games much earlier and our eyes will not be like we had a heavy drinking session the night before:D

Flynn 2014-03-31 07:46

Not sure what to expect from MU these days but the good thing is that we won against AV - some of the supporters hired a helicopter with a message to go over OT, trust me a lot of people took notice that Moyes should go. Hopefully this was a good game before the Bayern game tomorrow night

Arsenal vs MC - this game could have went either way but a draw was a good result though

Chelsea - damn, that was a shocker of the weekend, Palace need the points and they got 3 against Chelsea courtesy of a own goal from John Terry

Liverpool vs Spurs - Liverpool is on song, they are so impressive that it seems they will cruise to win the EPL this season but the mind games will start between Liverpool, Chelsea and MC, is Rodgers up for the task. People say the Liverpool has 2 difficult games against Chelsea and MC but I think that the lower teams in the league to do all the upsets in the business end of the season due to these teams desperately need the points to survive their standing in the EPL

beetle bailey 2014-03-31 11:11

No easy games at this stage of the season. Thought that although Everton deserved their win over bottom club Fulham yesterday, the scoreline isn't a true reflection of the game. Fulham played very well for a side in their position. Play like that against other sides and they may just be able to survive. Think most of their games are against fellow strugglers.

Liverpool win their remaining games and the title is theirs. Won't be easy but it's been a long time since we've been in such a position. Another good win over the weekend.

Arsenal need to look out as they could be overtaken by Everton in the race for a top four finish. Lose to Everton this coming weekend and who knows what could happen from then on.

Orange 2014-03-31 15:36

Everton still have to play both Manchester clubs, in addition to Arsenal this coming weekend. Should hang on to a Europa spot, but not expecting to be able to finish top 4. Would be nice of course, but I think it's just a bit beyond us.

We may, however, have a bit of a say in who wins the league in the end...beat City and we've helped our neighbours no end.

Toto 2014-03-31 17:37

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;183677]
Arsenal need to look out as they could be overtaken by Everton in the race for a top four finish.[/QUOTE]

Or by DM's rejuvenated Man United...:o

It's only 10 points:D

Toto 2014-03-31 17:39

I'd hate for the old foes Liverpool to win the title but if they did at least Football will be the winner over MONEY!

beetle bailey 2014-04-05 17:04

[QUOTE=Toto;183710]I'd hate for the old foes Liverpool to win the title but if they did at least Football will be the winner over MONEY![/QUOTE]

Looks a lot as if money talked in the Southampton versus Manchester City game. Southampton were giving an excellent account of themselves and were holding City, or that could perhaps read that City were holding Southampton, to a one all scorline when the linesman/touch judge/referee's assistant made a horrendous mistake by not flagging Nasri for offside. City scored from this movement and then within a minute or two scored another to make it three one.

How that offside wasn't seen and given is a mystery.

Tulani 2014-04-06 15:50

Everton you beauty 💣

beetle bailey 2014-04-06 19:11

[QUOTE=Tulani;184101]Everton you beauty 💣[/QUOTE]

You a Chelsea supporter aren't you? If so why you so happy for the Everton victory? It's not like they're going to be challenging you for a top four spot. Or is it just because Arsenal are also a London club?

Hard game for Liverpool away at West Ham today. Referee completely got the goal awarded to West Ham completely wrong. Clear infringement by Andy Carroll on Mignolet yet the goal was allowed to stand. Perhaps he made up for it in giving Liverpool their second penalty when maybe there was an element of doubt about whether this should have been one or not. As a Liverpool supporter I'm saying it was a penalty but can see why others may think otherwise.

Back to the top of the log and still in with a chance of the title. Some here are getting more and more worried as the games get ticked off and Liverpool continue winning. :D Big one is this coming weekend when Liverpool tackle Manchester City.

Tulani 2014-04-06 19:15

They have worked hard. Besides loyalty I appreciate what Martinez has done.

beetle bailey 2014-04-06 22:07

[QUOTE=Tulani;184109]They have worked hard. Besides loyalty I appreciate what Martinez has done.[/QUOTE]

True. At the beginning of the year lots of people, myself included, laughed when Martinez said his aim was to get Everton into the Champions League come the end of the season. I still cannot see them making it because they have some tough games coming up, Southampton, Manchester City and manchester united, but they've done extremely well to be where they are anyway.

Orange 2014-04-07 12:08

Hell, even I laughed at Martinez. But I ain't laughing no more...

And because of that, I'm not ruling out that fourth placed spot. Yes, we have both Manchester clubs to come, BUT both of those fixtures are at Goodison. And we're devilishly hard to beat there. Plus, the way Arsenal are going, there's no guarantee that they won't lose to the likes of Sunderland either...

We may have a tough last few games, and will likely drop some points through that, but I don't see Arsenal suddenly going on a winning spree either.

What is for sure is that this is one of the more cracker seasons for some time now. Loads of interest, even right at the end!

Flynn 2014-04-07 12:21

Norwich fired their coach - it will be interesting to see who takes over

MU had a good training session against Newcastle on Saturday, this will give them enough confidence going to Germany to take out Bayern

Lots of changes at the top of the EPL this weekend but Liverpool still maintained their good form - no matter how the goals come, a win is a win I guess:D

At the rate that Arsenal is playing these days, I cannot see them securing 4th position by the end of this season

Sandtonman 2014-04-07 13:22

[QUOTE=Flynn;184154] ....At the rate that Arsenal is playing these days, I cannot see them securing 4th position by the end of this season....[/QUOTE]

Yip, you right Flynn, we need to catch a major wake up call.
We are at risk from Everton, MU and even Spurs if we carry on playing like we have been recently.
Cheers, K.

Toto 2014-04-07 15:22

Technically, MU can still finish 4th ahead of Arsenal and Everton. Honestly speaking, Everton have a better chance of finishing 4th ahead of MU and Arsenal.

I dare say MU will win the last 5 games and let's see where that leaves us come end of the season:).

Toto 2014-04-07 15:26

[QUOTE=Tulani;184101]Everton you beauty ��[/QUOTE]

Wrong blue colour. It's time for you to stand by your beloved Chelsea who are giving up the title to L'pool. I think we can call Chelsea chokers!

Tulani 2014-04-07 15:27

It's all good. It doesn't bother me much. It's just sport.

beetle bailey 2014-04-07 20:31

IF Liverpool beat City or they draw then Chelsea very much back in the picture. At the moment they are only two points behind Liverpool. So I wouldn't be writting Chelsea off just yet.

Flynn 2014-04-09 12:21

Liverpool/Chelsea/MC can win the EPL this season - it is very close at the top

Liverpool is far the most consistent team for the 2013/2014 season and they are rightly at the top currently, not sure if game/media pressure might take them out of the top, also note that Liverpool has not been in this position for a very long time thus MC & Chelsea players know about the business end of the season, they have been there and done it before

Flynn 2014-04-14 07:18

I was not really interested in the games this weekend as MU was off for this weekend:D

Liverpool is on course to win the EPL, a win against MC - lots of controversy in this game with Suarez diving (as normal), he missed a second yellow card and Skirtel(spelling could be wrong) handing/punching the ball in the box, if the ref spotted that, a penalty would have been given to MC, this would have changed the whole game but a win is a win I guess.

There are so many permutations between Liverpool, Chelsea & MC - this is the business end of the season and the pressure is on

Flynn 2014-04-14 07:22

Hull City made their first FA final - they will meet Arsenal. Maybe Wenger can save some face by winning this cup but Hull seeing that this is their first FA Cup final, they will go all out to win this cup:D

beetle bailey 2014-04-14 10:52

Cannot argue that Suarez was very lucky to stay on the pitch after his dive. Very disappointed in the way he went down in this match as it is something he hasn't really been doing this season. Even Sturridge is doing the same thing and is something that I wish the referees would clamp down on. However, this is something that we've been seeing from ALL teams for the whole season.

Skrtel's handball should have been a penalty although I'm not certain that it was deliberate. But no arguments about the ball hitting his arm. Cannot really argue anyway when the video evidence clearly shows the ball hitting the arm.

But, over the past couple of years we've had the bad decisions go against us, none more so than the "beach ball" incident, so I'm quite happy to see the pendulum swinging in our favour at last.

Losing both Henderson and Sturridge for what appears to be just about the rest of the season is a huge loss. Certainly we do have Lucas and Allen to fill in for Henderson but nobody of the same class as Sturridge to fill in for him. Moses? Henderson and Sturridge will be sorely missed against Chelsea, which game could really be the league decider, and will make this game even more difficult than it already is.

Bottom of the league also looking very interesting regarding the drop zone.

Everton play manchester united this coming weekend? Very important game as a win for Everton would definitely write united out of a top four or even perhaps top five finish. Arsenal too will be wanting Everton to lose so that they can climb back up to fourth. I'm shouting for Everton. Will also be doing so when they play Manchester City.

Toto 2014-04-15 16:50

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;184516]Skrtel's handball should have been a penalty although I'm not certain that it was deliberate..[/QUOTE]

Not deliberate? C'mon BB :D. This should settle the matter regarding City's offside goal a week earlier. So no more excuses should you not make this time. It looks like SAF was the stumbling block to Liverpool winning another title or perhaps Jose will spoil the party???

Chris Hanson 2014-04-15 17:22

This has definately become the Season of the Managers :D
I like what Rodgers was doing at Swansea, and it shows at Anfield. I never rated Moyes very highly, and I can't see the Old Trafford faithful enduring another painful season next year. Must say I'm pleasantly surpised by Mark Hughes' role at Stoke. I was expecting the worst, but now it looks like a top 10 finish might be on the cards. (Need Arsenal to demolish West Ham tonight :D )

Flynn 2014-04-16 07:18

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;184656]Need Arsenal to demooshish West Ham tonight :D[/QUOTE]

3-1 to Arsenal. Wenger knew that a draw or a loss would have put his team in a terrible position

Arsenal has a good chance to secure 4th position, Everton has tough games ahead, not sure if they can pick up maximum points against both the Manchester clubs however this is the business end of the season and teams are either fighting for relegation or UEFA spots so every team will be taking every game like a cup final

beetle bailey 2014-04-16 11:12

[QUOTE=Toto;184655]Not deliberate? C'mon BB :D. This should settle the matter regarding City's offside goal a week earlier. So no more excuses should you not make this time. It looks like SAF was the stumbling block to Liverpool winning another title or perhaps Jose will spoil the party???[/QUOTE]

Strangely enough the exact same thing happened in another game as well. Cannot recall if it was the Arsenal, West Ham game last night or another one but almost identical in the way the ball hit the defenders arm. Also wasn't given as a penalty. I have yet to see a defender manage to jump into the air without raising his arms as Skrtel and this other player had done.

As said before, I was surprised that the penalty wasn't awarded but it wasn't a deliberate hand ball. Others may think otherwise but I'll stick with my view.

Tulani 2014-04-16 11:34

probably case of "poetic justice".

Liverpool had bad decisions in the first leg so things leveling out somehow.

The emotions of this past weekend clash probably also propelling Liverpool and everything else that day.

They don't seem to be walking alone anytime soon.

Flynn 2014-04-16 12:00

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;184719]I was surprised that the penalty wasn't awarded but it wasn't a deliberate hand ball. Others may think otherwise but I'll stick with my view.[/QUOTE]

My view of a handball is when a player direct his hand towards the ball intentionally and Skrtel did just that. If one watch the replay, Skrtel directed a fist towards the ball like a keeper would do however having said that, the ref and the linesman had no view of the incident, somehow the soccer GODS was with Skrtel on the day. Fortunately for us the TV viewers, we have the benefit of the replay - I don't think that anyone who saw the game live would have picked up the handball incident

Flynn 2014-04-22 07:29

Today we will see the future of David Moyes after MU loss to Everton over the weekend. Some people will say that Moyes need more time but the owners and the shareholders want good results, this in turn pick up share price and merchandise thus people are happy. Unfortunately for Moyes, he has a multi million pound team, he has to produce good results

Liverpool is on a roll to win the EPL - this week will be very important with the game against Chelsea. Somehow I cannot see Liverpool losing this title, well it is for Liverpool to lose - a lot of pressure will build up for the last 3 games. Chelsea & MC are still in the running

beetle bailey 2014-04-22 09:44

Can understand why the owners of manchester united want to sack moyes as the team hasn't been playing well under his guidance. What I fail to understand is why they want to do so now with only three or four games left in the season. :confused: united cannot finish lower, nor higher, than where they are at the moment so what's to be gained by sacking him now? To have giggs take over for the remainder of the season also doesn't make much sense as he's never been in charge of any side that I'm aware of. Being a good player also doesn't make him a good manager.

Seems like there's confusion both on and off the pitch at old trafford.

Beetle still sweating over Liverpool and their title challenge. Chelsea going to be a difficult match and Crystal Palace also been playing very well recently. Nothing is decided yet although I think that Chelsea may just be out of the running. Five points behind Liverpool they'll have to hope that both Liverpool and Manchester City drop points. Think both Liverpool and City would have to lose two of their remaining games for Chelsea to sneak in?

Toto 2014-04-22 10:04

It's done. David "Flop" Moyes has been sacked with immediate effect!

Flynn 2014-04-22 10:56

[QUOTE=Toto;184971]It's done. David "Flop" Moyes has been sacked with immediate effect![/QUOTE]

Just heard the news via 94.7

[url]http://www.sport24.co.za/Soccer/EnglishPremiership/Man-United-sack-David-Moyes-20140422[/url]

Jurgen Klopp of Borussia Dortmund would be a good signing to take over Moyes

Toto 2014-04-22 11:15

[QUOTE=Flynn;184978]Just heard the news via 94.7 - any idea who will take over from Moyes?[/QUOTE]

Short term probably Giggs assisted by Butt/Scholes. Long-term still to be determined. I guess Moyes must be hating SAF for ruining his career. He will never ever be trusted again by a big club!

Chris Hanson 2014-04-22 11:31

I have to agree with Beetle, I don't see the point of sacking Moyes with just 4 ganes left. He should either have been given the boot back in January when there was still time for a replacement to try and turn things around at OT, or let him finish out the season. I believe Hollan coach Louis van Gaal is the leading candidate for the long run.
Can't say it comes as much of a surprise though. It was weeks and weeks of excuses from Moyes. How can he talk about MU being in a re-building phase when no new faces were being signed up. You can't re-build using the same players.

Toto 2014-04-22 12:25

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;184985]I have to agree with Beetle, I don't see the point of sacking Moyes with just 4 ganes left. [/QUOTE]

There is a number of reasons why the sacking had to happen now not earlier or later.

1. Statement of intent. The board wanted to make it clear to the fans that mediocrity doesn't belong at MUFC

2. David Moyes had a clause in his 6-year contract stating that he would only get a severance package of one year should he fail to make the CL. After the defeat ironically to Everton on Sunday, It became mathematically impossible for MUFC to finish 4th.

3. David Moyes built his own coffin by isolating himself from everybody that mattered at MUFC. He thought he was untouchable because he was handpicked by SAF. He made a number of blunders behind the scenes.
First of all, he refused to follow SAF recommendation of keeping SAF's support staff hence Phelan and Mulensteen (Fergie's assistants) left.
Secondly, he undermined Ryan Giggs both as part of his technical staff as well as a player favouring his own imports.
Hence his relationship Giggs broke down and the latter was considering leaving the club in the summer.

Thirdly, he lost the dressing room particularly the senior players such as Vidic, Ferdinand, RVP and to a certain extent Rooney.

All of these facts and more created a bad vibe at the club and many players were considering leaving in the summer. The board had to intervene as soon as Moyes failed to qualify for the CL. In a sense, the board actually were relieved we lost to Everton paving the way for his safe sacking.

It's a lot of politics behind but the bottom line is that David Moyes is very naïve and short-sighted. He has damaged his own reputation as a manager perhaps beyond repair. MUFC will move on and win things again in the near future ( unlike you know who)

Chris Hanson 2014-04-22 13:50

Thanks Toto, a very insightful posting. Just looking at the league, Everton only need one point to exclude MU from even getting into the Europa League.

Sandtonman 2014-04-22 19:35

[QUOTE=Chris Hanson;184998] ...Thanks Toto, a very insightful posting.....[/QUOTE]

[FONT=Arial]Agreed, thanks for the detailed background Toto ![/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Cheers, K.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial]p.s. even I feel a pang of sorrow for poor old Moyes! but he did bite off a bit more than he could chew. k[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]pps and he broke a basic business rule of changing too much, too quickly; despite SAF's warnings not to do so. The folly of youth! k[/SIZE][/FONT]

beetle bailey 2014-04-22 19:39

Toto you make a lot of valid points regarding why moyes should have been sacked and I mostly agree with all of them. However, I still cannot see why he wasn't allowed to see out the rest of the season. Certainly the board showing intent that he wasn't good enough is valid but do you think that players are going to be pacified by this sacking and now sit back and say that they want to play for united? Think a lot would depend on who is coming in to replace him. giggs isn't the man for the long term. Not yet anyway. Players may show him some respect for now but all players have huge egos and think they are the greatest. Can giggs man manage them when things go pear shaped? Admittedly though he has only been given the job till the end of the season so could be a good learning curve for him.

Unless a quick decision is made as to who is going to replace moyes full time, I can see those players who wanted to leave still putting in their transfer requests.

Tulani 2014-04-22 21:27

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Flynn 2014-04-24 07:51

Unfortunately for Moyes, this was a pure financial decision. MU will not be in Europe next season, there will be huge revenue lost by MU thus MU will go into huge debts next season. With Moyes sacking, the club's shares went up:)

Some may say that Ryan Giggs is not management material, I would somewhat agree because he has always been a player at MU, not sure if Giggs was in any succession planning at MU, I guess only time will tell. Personally I do not think that the players will give Giggs a hard time - Giggs come from a long playing career at the highest level and during his time, he has won it all - RESPECT is what he will get during his caretaker post

beetle bailey 2014-04-24 09:27

Don't managers have to have a coaching certificate or similar? If so does giggs have one?

Now we have butt, scholes and neville assisting him till the end of the season. All fairly good players but I wonder just what it is they will be bringing to the side from a tactical point of view? Fortunately it's only for three games so they really have very little, if anything, to lose.

Toto 2014-04-24 10:41

[QUOTE=Flynn;185085]Unfortunately for Moyes, this was a pure financial decision. MU will not be in Europe next season, there will be huge revenue lost by MU thus MU will go into huge debts next season. With Moyes sacking, the club's shares went up:)

[/QUOTE]

I beg to differ Flynn. Finances play a part but not all of it. The club was being turned into a headless chicken. Order needed to be restored. David Moyes simply doesn't fit the bill. He doesn't have the personality to manage MUFC.

By the way, before anyone feels sorry for Moyes. Just remember he's walking away with not less than £4.5 million for failing to deliver.

Finally, BB, yes Giggs has got the badges but I personally think he's not ready to manage such a big club. Perhaps an assistant role to begin with.

Flynn 2014-04-24 11:26

[QUOTE=Toto;185099]I beg to differ Flynn. Finances play a part but not all of it. The club was being turned into a headless chicken. Order needed to be restored. David Moyes simply doesn't fit the bill. He doesn't have the personality to manage MUFC.

By the way, before anyone feels sorry for Moyes. Just remember he's walking away with not less than £4.5 million for failing to deliver.

Finally, BB, yes Giggs has got the badges but I personally think he's not ready to manage such a big club. Perhaps an assistant role to begin with.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/22/david-moyes-fired_n_5189856.html#[/url]

Toto 2014-04-25 10:39

Rene Meulensteen(former United coach under Fergie)'s insight on Moyes's stubbornness, short-sightedness and pretentiousness. Interesting read!

[url]http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2014/04/25/4774479/moyes-ignored-advice-underestimated-magnitude-of-manchester?ICID=HP_BN_6[/url]

sd_steve 2014-04-25 14:52

[QUOTE=Toto;185099]
By the way, before anyone feels sorry for Moyes. Just remember he's walking away with not less than £4.5 million for failing to deliver.[/QUOTE]

Toto, this amount is taxable is it not. SO it may end up as half that figure.

Flynn 2014-04-25 15:03

[QUOTE=sd_steve;185178]Toto, this amount is taxable is it not. SO it may end up as half that figure.[/QUOTE]

Football player and managers pay 50% tax on their salaries

France want to move this percentage to 75% for top earners

sd_steve 2014-04-25 15:06

[QUOTE=Flynn;185180]Football player and managers pay 50% tax on their salaries[/QUOTE]

Well only the rich ones

Toto 2014-04-25 16:22

[QUOTE=sd_steve;185178]Toto, this amount is taxable is it not. SO it may end up as half that figure.[/QUOTE]

It doesn't matter Steve. When we talk salaries we always talk gross. Whenever he gets is cool considering he can still work for another employer as soon as July, 1st.

By the way, r u holding your breath for LFC to win the league before you go ahead and make a big noise? U have been surprisingly very quiet...:)

sd_steve 2014-04-26 22:00

[QUOTE=Toto;185188]
By the way, r u holding your breath for LFC to win the league before you go ahead and make a big noise? U have been surprisingly very quiet...:)[/QUOTE]

Nah, you know it has been so long since first division glory. I don't want to jinx it, It's not over till the fat lady sings.

Tulani 2014-04-27 17:18

Another tika taka from Mourinho!

Toto 2014-04-27 22:11

Gerrard, Gerrard, Gerrard Oh Gerrard, captain fantastic, what happened to you today? l thought this was your best and perhaps your last chance ever to win the Premier League yet you might have just blown it...

Honestly, a part of me was wishing Liverpool well to finally win it but the noise all the Liverpool fans around the world mind you started making the last couple of weeks coupled with the disastrous season United had actually put me off. l now know which of the two enemies is the worst and that is the old enemy. I'd take City title win better than Liverpool's but there is still football to be played.

Best league in the world by a mile!

beetle bailey 2014-04-28 11:26

Gerrard must have been gutted with that error of his. Not so much the slip but the failing to control a simple pass to him. League title not yet settled and any one of Manchester City, my favourite, and Livepool, my hope, can still win it. Chelsea I think are out of it as for them to win the title both Liverpool and Manchester City will need to drop points while Chelsea win all their games.

Apart from the disappointment of the Liverpool loss I was also mildly upset that the ref didn't start producing some yellow cards at the beginning of the game for time wasting by the Chelsea players. Certainly it was a tactic that they were using and which worked 100% so tactically Chelsea got what they wanted. However, if they were using these tactics with say ten minutes left to play the ref would have produced yellow cards. So why not at the beginning of the game?

Oh well, irrespective of what happens from here Liverpool have already achieved their target for this year by finishing in the top four. Who here would have predicted that we'd not only finish in the top four but would in fact be challenging for the title come the end of the season?

Tulani 2014-04-28 21:26

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Flynn 2014-04-29 07:14

Sorry BB - it seems like the pressure is getting to the Liverpool players:D Mourinho is a master at the depth of the league season and for cup games, that is why he is regarded as the best in the game these days. Yes, Liverpool and MC has the best chance to win the EPL however one cannot write of Chelsea, it is very easy to lose games at this time of the season

How about Giggsy's first game in charge of MU? 4 - 0 win against Norwich, he must be ecstatic. I heard over the weekend that Van Gaal will take over MU but some news is saying otherwise, probably I have to check out the MU website, if this information is true - I am sure that MU will make Giggs the assistant manager and he will be Gaal's successor if/when he leave or get fired

[url]http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/apr/28/louis-van-gaal-manchester-united-world-cup-ryan-giggs[/url]

beetle bailey 2014-04-29 19:19

Good start for giggs in a management position I'll admit. But let's not get too carried away as I'm fairly certain that even if moyes was still in charge united would have won.

As an outsider I'd suggest that united get Van Gaal in as the manager and have giggs as his assistant. Then when Van Gaal moves on giggs can take over from him. It's one thing being a manager for a couple of weeks but a big difference when one is given the job full time.

Orange 2014-05-02 15:00

[QUOTE=Toto;185244]Best league in the world by a mile![/QUOTE]

Ain't that the truth. Two weeks left and absolutely NOTHING has been decided. Three sides still in with a realistic shout at winning the league, the final champions league spot is still between 2 teams (although, sadly, Arsenal are huge favourites to secure that this weekend), the Europa league spot(s) are not done and dusted yet with any of 3 clubs (4 if you count Arsenal) still possible to get it, and not 1 club has officially been relegated.

There isn't a single league anywhere of consequence that can say that!

beetle bailey 2014-05-02 17:07

Look at the Scottish League where Glasgow Rangers are running away with the title. Last I saw they were so far ahead of second place that if you took their points and had them one point ahead of this second placed side, they'd still have enough points over to be third or fourth bottom of the log.

Tulani 2014-05-03 18:05

#Giggs out

beetle bailey 2014-05-03 18:12

[QUOTE=Tulani;185565]#Giggs out[/QUOTE]

How can you say that? After his previous game in charge when they beat lowly Norwich everyone was shouting his praises. Leave him, and his class of 92, or is it 99?, to run the show at united. They can continue the good work moyes started.

Tulani 2014-05-03 19:21

After this Moyes may have a case for unfair dismissal

Flynn 2014-05-05 08:01

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;185566]How can you say that? After his previous game in charge when they beat lowly Norwich everyone was shouting his praises. Leave him, and his class of 92, or is it 99?, to run the show at united. They can continue the good work moyes started.[/QUOTE]

Norwich drew 0-0 with Chelsea, this simply means that Chelsea is almost out of the EPL race

We all know Giggs is not management material at the moment, I am sure he will be appointed assistant to whichever coach that comes in for the new season. I would say that Giggs will be a good coach in years to come. Strange things has happened in sport - was the Sunderland game rigged, that win somehow might just keep Sunderland in the EPL for next season

Cardiff & Fulham is relegated after this past weekend results

Tulani 2014-05-05 23:19

Liverpool should've borrowed one of Jose's DAF Or Scania buses in the second half.

Flynn 2014-05-06 07:26

Crystal Palace you beauty. Coming back from 3-0 down is a phenomenal win for any team. Pressure really pushed Liverpool into hopes that MC lose or draw both their last 2 games, personally I cannot see that happening - they play their last 2 games at home and they should win. Lots of tears from the Liverpool players and supporters alike last night

[IMG]http://www.bluekipper.com/articleimages/1360102115-Analfield.jpg[/IMG]

Liverpool just flushed their title hopes

beetle bailey 2014-05-06 10:50

Hugely disappointing to go from 3 - 0 up with only eleven or so minutes left to play and then end up at 3 - 3. Should never happen in a league of this standard. So from that aspect it's a shocking result.

Palace however, are not a weak team and if the league was taken over the last seven or so games they'd be second on it. So the stats say. Coming away with the one point, although I admit it should have been all three, isn't really all that bad a result. City still need to collect at least four points from their two games to be assured of the title.

Liverpool would only have thrown the league down the toilet so to speak if City only win one and draw one of their remaining games and Liverpool manage to beat Newcastle. Realistically, I cannot see City not picking up the six points from their next two games. Although, obviously, I do hope that they lose one of these two games.

But irrespective of the outcome it's been a very good season for Liverpool and I'm proud of them.

Toto 2014-05-06 12:00

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;185780]Hugely disappointing to go from 3 - 0 up with only eleven or so minutes left to play and then end up at 3 - 3. Should never happen in a league of this standard. So from that aspect it's a shocking result.
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Sorry BB. You can always contact the support line for counselling. The number is [SIZE="6"][B]0860 30 -31 -32 -33[/B][/SIZE]

Good luck for the rest of the season!

beetle bailey 2014-05-06 12:47

[QUOTE=Toto;185789]Sorry BB. You can always contact the support line for counselling. The number is [SIZE="6"][B]0860 30 -31 -32 -33[/B][/SIZE]

Good luck for the rest of the season![/QUOTE]

Is this the same number you and your fellow united supporters have been using this season? :D Fortunately, finishing in the top four was our target for this year and that has been achieved. The league title would have been a very pleasant bonus.

Flynn 2014-05-06 13:20

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;185793]Fortunately, finishing in the top four was our target for this year and that has been achieved. The league title would have been a very pleasant bonus.[/QUOTE]

I knew this would come out by the Liverpool management, supporters, sponsors, share holders, etc. Teams like Liverpool, MU, MC, Chelsea & Arsenal never ever settle for a top 4 finish at the beginning of any new season, if this is the case, then the manager is kidding himself because share holders and supporters want their team to win the EPL every single year. Liverpool had their best season for sometime by contesting the EPL and it all boiled down to who the succumb to pressure and we all know what happened last night. All is not done yet BB - points is the bag is way better than points to play for, Liverpool can only hope that MC mess up their last 2 games but the EPL title is still up for grabs

MU & Liverpool has a long standing of hatred against each other, be it team mates or supporters. Although Liverpool is playing some good football this season, I do not want Liverpool to win the EPL - their supporters will go on bragging till the cows come home

Toto 2014-05-06 15:00

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;185793]Is this the same number you and your fellow united supporters have been using this season? :D Fortunately, finishing in the top four was our target for this year and that has been achieved. The league title would have been a very pleasant bonus.[/QUOTE]

No BB, we haven't but the Arsenal fans though have been using
[B][SIZE="6"]0860 10 - 63 - 61 - 60 [/SIZE][/B]especially on a Saturday lunchtime. I'm sure Keith can confirm that :p

beetle bailey 2014-05-06 17:15

Toto, am I missing something with those phone numbers? I'm taking it that those are just random numbers or is there some significance to them? :confused:

Flynn, it is true that at the start of a season teams like City, Chelsea, Arsenal and united aim for the title as they have been the sides contesting it for a number of years. Other sides like Liverpool, Spurs, Everton, to mention just three, haven't been in the top four for years and for them the first target is to try and make a top four finish. Winning the league for these teams is something, at the moment, they can only dream about. The aim for Liverpool for this year was to make the step up and get into a Champions League spot. Which they have now done. Having got there this year and even challenging for the title one would now expect that they will do so again next year. So your statement that Liverpool and other teams all challenge for the title will be acceptable insofar as Liverpool are concerned for next season but not this one. (Hope I understood you correctly).

Regarding the "hatred" between Liverpool and united supporters please note that I don't hate any of you and that most of my comments are hopefully not taken that way. Certainly at times I love putting the boot into you poor non European playing supporters but then I also expect nothing less in return. All meant in fun and jest.

Although at times there may be an element of truth in my comments. Such as where are the genuine united supporters at the united home games? Once again when united lose at home the ground is just about empty by the time of the final whistle. Compare this to what happened when Liverpool played Chelsea recently. Liverpool go 2 - 0 down with a minute or two left to play and what do the Liverpool supporters do?
Leave the ground in their droves? NO. They stay and break out into a rousing rendition of "You'll Never Walk Alone". (OK for Chelsea's second goal perhaps Mignolet the Liverpool keeper, may have looked sideways at the singing crowd considering that he was left all alone with two Chelsea attackers approaching him :D) Who would you say are the better supporters of the two? united's or Liverpool's.

Oh well season's almost over and it's been fun. Thanks to all who have taken the time to contribute.

Toto 2014-05-06 17:20

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;185821]Toto, am I missing something with those phone numbers? I'm taking it that those are just random numbers or is there some significance to them? :confused:

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C'mon BB,

Liverpool

12 from time 3-0 for Liverpool then.... 3-3 final score

Arsenal

Ethiad stadium, Anfield, Stamford bridge. (scores)

Clever, isn't it? :D:p:p

Flynn 2014-05-08 07:35

MC 4-0 Villa

Do the Liverpool faithfuls still hoping for a miracle?:D Liverpool can just go out on the field on Sunday to make sure that they win, if MC lose, Liverpool will win the EPL but I find this very unlikely, sorry BB but Liverpool will have to wait for another season or so to try to win the EPL

Giggs back to winning ways against Hull City, Giggs gave Vidic a good send off with his speech after the game

beetle bailey 2014-05-08 11:11

Toto. Would never have guessed what the numbers actually meant. As you say, "very clever". :D

While we live we hope but it is rather a long shot, an extreme LONG SHOT, that Liverpool can win the league this season. However, I feel that West Ham have a better chance of beating Man City than Villa had. But, realistically, I think the league title is done and dusted with City being the winners. Would expect Liverpool to beat Newcastle so finishing second, or as someone else said, first of the losers isn't too bad a showing for this season.

Wondered why giggs picked the side that he did for last weekend's game. Had some decent players on the bench but went for two youngsters up front and picked Fellaini as well. Almost got the impression that he was covering himself in case of defeat. Could use the excuse that he was giving youngsters a chance. But maybe that's all it was. Him giving younger players a chance to prove what they could do. wilson scored two goals and the commentators were raving about him. Second goal was a tap in which even I could have scored, I think, while first one was well taken but what one would expect from any striker. Cannot recall him doing anything remarkable other than scoring those two goals. But time will tell whether he is indeed as good as some are making him out to be.

Relegation teams settled with Norwich now also one of the sides being relegated. (Seem to remember that if Sunderland won Norwich were out? Or are West Brom still in the mix?)

sd_steve 2014-05-10 08:35

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;185536]Look at the Scottish League where Glasgow Rangers are running away with the title. Last I saw they were so far ahead of second place that if you took their points and had them one point ahead of this second placed side, they'd still have enough points over to be third or fourth bottom of the log.[/QUOTE]

Rangers are in the Scottish league 1 due to going into administration, as opposed to Celtic who are in the Scottish premiership.

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beetle bailey 2014-05-10 10:25

[QUOTE=sd_steve;185965]Rangers are in the Scottish league 1 due to going into administration, as opposed to Celtic who are in the Scottish premiership.

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Quite correct sd_steve. I should perhaps have mentioned that but the point being made was the huge lead that Rangers had over the rest of the clubs. Even if we all know that Rangers are way too good to be playing in any Scottish league other than the Premiership one.

Flynn 2014-05-12 07:55

The curtains are down for the 2013/2014 EPL season
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Well done MC on winning the league - surprising that with a team like MC, one would expect that they would win the EPL with a fair margin of points

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Liverpool has played the best football in the 2013/2014 season, they deserved to win the EPL title however pressure led them to failure. Sorry to all the Liverpool fans, this was you'll best shot at the EPL title

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That is how Chelsea's season ended - a rather dismal one because Chelsea had high hopes when Mourinho came in as their manager

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Arsenal dominated the EPL for the better part of the season but they just could not retain their winning ways

MU employing David Moyes from Everton was indeed the worst signing ever. Unfortunately top clubs want results and Moyes was never the manager for MU. He had to fill the shoes of SAF and that was some big shoes. MU is going to employ a manager in the off season, maybe Van Gaal might be the right manager however time will tell

Loved the banter for the 2013/2014 - Cheers for this season

Toto 2014-05-12 10:44

It took Utd 26 years from the years Sir Busby to the first title of Sir Alex Ferguson. How long will it take L'pool? It's 24 years counting...What does YNWA stand for. Is it "You'll never walk alone" or perhaps " You'll never win Again":p

Flynn 2014-05-12 14:07

[QUOTE=Toto;186074]What does YNWA stand for. Is it "You'll never walk alone" or perhaps " You'll never win Again":p[/QUOTE]

Love the different meanings of the acronyms

Trust me when I say, I am sooooooooo happy that Liverpool never win the this season's EPL. Most of their supporters would have had a lot to say. Now the only thing they say is that at the beginning of the season, they wanted a top 4 finish:D

It is going to be difficult for Liverpool to maintain their run in the EPL because they have CL to play as well - that can drain the players and manager alike

beetle bailey 2014-05-12 17:14

[QUOTE=Flynn;186128]It is going to be difficult for Liverpool to maintain their run in the EPL because they have CL to play as well - that can drain the players and manager alike[/QUOTE]

Going to be good to see what united do next season and if they can match what Liverpool did this season by pushing Manchester City right up to the last game. Remember that united will have no European football next year so they should at the very least be expected to match Liverpool's showing of this year.

To the Manchester City supporters and team, well done and congratulations.

To you united supporters how you must enjoy seeing your two arch enemies sitting in positions one and two on the log while you languish down in mid table. Saviour giggs didn't end up doing any better than moyes did he? Going to be interesting to see what players you manage to attract to the club next year. van gaal almost certain to be appointed manager.

Chelsea didn't do too badly but wish Mourinho wouldn't always complain so much. On about his not having a decent striker in the squad. Whose fault is that? Perhaps if he had kept some of his loan players, Lukaku?, he may have done better. Like Man City he has one of the biggest squads of quality players and one would have expected more of them. Although they did finish third after playing in Champions League and getting to the semi finals so not entirely a bad season for them. I do, however, wonder what the mood in the squad is like having read recently that Hazard has criticised the style of play, Oscar hardly getting a game and Mourinho moaning about a lack of strike force. Surely this cannot be good for morale?

Arsenal fell away badly towards the end and came very close to failing to qualify for the Champions League for next year. See Wenger says he'll be with them next year as well.

As things now stand and before the transfer window opens I can see the above four teams being favourites to finish in the top four again next year. However, a lot will depend on how the squads are strengthened. Wouldn't write off united just yet but with the other sides all going to be strengthening their squads united will have to spend fairly big to keep in touch.

Stoke spending another year with the big boys. Well done.

Now what do I watch on a Saturday and Sunday afternoon? :mad:

sd_steve 2014-05-13 06:56

We go again!

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Flynn 2014-05-13 07:39

[QUOTE=beetle bailey;186152]Now what do I watch on a Saturday and Sunday afternoon? :mad:[/QUOTE]

For the coming weekends, I would probably missed the EPL but at least there is the IPL, getting interesting these days

Vidic & Ferdinand is gone from MU, they are also looking at getting Shaw's signature which means that Evra should be going soon - this means that MU will be looking to beef up their defence drastically. MU never had a good defence from the time I can remember, even the likes of Bruce & Pallister in the yester years was good but not good enough, we all know what they boys did at the back


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